Why add a GS splash screen on apps that don't sell?

SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
Don't get me wrong, I love that you made the software free and all. It was essential. Though you only lose users by having a forced splash screen on apps that don't sell anyways (No offense guiz but no 'masterpiece' has come out of this place yet :)). Unless a hit app is developed using GS (which I'm not expecting at the moment judging by the restrictions) this market strategy is completely useless, and you will only lose users by having it. The splash screen almost gives a negative effect. When I make an app, I want it to feel personal, it doesn't with your splash screen all over my app. Almost makes me wanna go Corona..

Thou I will still use your software in hopes for a brighter future =)
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  • jonmulcahyjonmulcahy Member, Sous Chef Posts: 10,408
    There have been quite a few hit apps

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  • IsabelleKIsabelleK Member, Sous Chef Posts: 2,807
    I have never heard any voice that my game is a crap because it was made with GS. It all depends on your skills and creativity.

    And I think that my game is pretty successful in my opinion.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    You apparently havn't heard of bumps, doodle destroy, Red Block Remover, zombie drop, secrets of Grisly Manor. just to name a few.
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  • SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
    tenrdrmer said:
    You apparently havn't heard of bumps, doodle destroy, Red Block Remover, zombie drop, secrets of Grisly Manor. just to name a few.

    Was Grisly Manor created with GameSalad? But GameSalad is so restrictive..?
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    I would say since you joined last night you may want give it a chance and see whats up before talking trash on it.
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  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    http://gamesalad.com/games/ios

    First on on the list.

    Game salad has it limitations but is still very formidable to other game engines
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  • SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
    tenrdrmer said:
    I would say since you joined last night you may want give it a chance and see whats up before talking trash on it.

    Splash screen is in my way
  • SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
    And also no pixel collision? I can't finish my platformer if my horse keeps colliding with stones before they hit its legs..
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    Siksten said:
    And also no pixel collision? I can't finish my platformer if my horse keeps colliding with stones before they hit its legs..

    Yes i'm aware of that. like I said it has its limitations. but there is also many workarounds available to those limitations. if you would rather use xcode to make your game feel free but it does no good to come into the forum and start gripping and stirring s#!t about game salad that we all already know and have learned to deal with.
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  • SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
    tenrdrmer said:
    Yes i'm aware of that. like I said it has its limitations. but there is also many workarounds available to those limitations. if you would rather use xcode to make your game feel free but it does no good to come into the forum and start gripping and stirring s#!t about game salad that we all already know and have learned to deal with.

    I love this software I just want what's best for me
  • peachpellenpeachpellen Member Posts: 977
    .... Your post is whiny and you've been here 5 minutes so no one is going to entertain your attitude.

    "No offense guiz but no 'masterpiece' has come out of this place yet :)"

    See that there? That's you being an unbelievable (and ignorant!) douchebag. What kind of a twat puts a smiley emoticon at the end of such an insulting line? (*Spoiler: You, that's what kind of twat.)

    There have been several successful apps come out of GameSalad; more than those listed above. Do you know how much FMG made with Grisly Manor? Do a forum search.

    I use Corona; I love Corona - but I also have a soft spot for GameSalad. It's a great tool (much like yourself) and if you hate it enough to bitch this hard on your first day here I suggest you try another engine.

    *If you love the software then take some time to learn about it. Learn about the success stories rather than cluelessly stating that there are none, then learn about magnitude. Whinging right off the bat and acting like an ass wont make people want to help you or take you seriously.

    /endrant
  • SikstenSiksten Member Posts: 16
    peachpellen said:
    .... Your post is whiny and you've been here 5 minutes so no one is going to entertain your attitude.

    "No offense guiz but no 'masterpiece' has come out of this place yet :)"

    See that there? That's you being an unbelievable (and ignorant!) douchebag. What kind of a twat puts a smiley emoticon at the end of such an insulting line? (*Spoiler: You, that's what kind of twat.)

    There have been several successful apps come out of GameSalad; more than those listed above. Do you know how much FMG made with Grisly Manor? Do a forum search.

    I use Corona; I love Corona - but I also have a soft spot for GameSalad. It's a great tool (much like yourself) and if you hate it enough to bitch this hard on your first day here I suggest you try another engine.

    *If you love the software then take some time to learn about it. Learn about the success stories rather than cluelessly stating that there are none, then learn about magnitude. Whinging right off the bat and acting like an ass wont make people want to help you or take you seriously.

    /endrant

    Magnitude only works if your object is straight, mine is quite wavey so it wont work!
  • peachpellenpeachpellen Member Posts: 977
    Siksten said:
    Magnitude only works if your object is straight, mine is quite wavey so it wont work!

    That's what you took out of that post? /doublefacepalm

    Maybe if you ask for help with a few more patronizing comments and smiles that could work? :) (c wut i did thar?)
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    peachpellen said:
    That's what you took out of that post? /doublefacepalm

    Maybe if you ask for help with a few more patronizing comments and smiles that could work? :) (c wut i did thar?)

    I'm so glad you're back hanging out here again! I missed you*!

    QS :D

    *yes, sorry, that was me shooting at you :O

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  • jonmulcahyjonmulcahy Member, Sous Chef Posts: 10,408
    peachpellen said:
    That's what you took out of that post? /doublefacepalm

    Maybe if you ask for help with a few more patronizing comments and smiles that could work? :) (c wut i did thar?)

    Haha awesome :)

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  • AjBlueAjBlue Member Posts: 215
    might i add this engine is still in beta, and i would bet that pixel collision is probably something they are working on.

    also id rather spend 10 minutes using a longer workaround to a problem like pixel collision, than spending hours coding the whole thing
  • DimensionGamesDimensionGames PRO Posts: 993
    What amazes me is that no other software company answers every customers ideas and puts them into the update...check the FIFA series for proof!

    Gamesalad FTW.
  • peachpellenpeachpellen Member Posts: 977
    quantumsheep said:
    I'm so glad you're back hanging out here again! I missed you*!

    QS :D

    *yes, sorry, that was me shooting at you :O

    I love you too, Sheepy - and don't be ridiculous, you know your furry little hooves can't hold a dueling pistol, which I assume as a gentleman is what you would be wielding?

    On a serious note I'm trying to spend more time here again; I do like GS, I do hope to use it on some projects more suited to it in the future as well - but until then I still love the community.

    PS - You never followed me back on Twitter and it broke my weak female heart. For shame.
  • jonmulcahyjonmulcahy Member, Sous Chef Posts: 10,408
    Pixel collision will not be coming to game salad untl they stop using the box2d engine for physics, its not supported.

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  • 8BitMichael8BitMichael Member, PRO Posts: 125
    Just for the record, I love GameSalad, I love that it's free, and I don't really mind the splash (for express). However, I HAVE had negative reviews that reference the splash screen...so it's not an imaginary problem.
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    peachpellen said:
    PS - You never followed me back on Twitter and it broke my weak female heart. For shame.

    Remedied! :D

    *hands you some superglue for your heart

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  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    MDD said:
    Just for the record, I love GameSalad, I love that it's free, and I don't really mind the splash (for express). However, I HAVE had negative reviews that reference the splash screen...so it's not an imaginary problem.

    no offense but if your game was good it wouldnt matter at all. stop acting like little school girls
  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Do people really leave reviews saying, "I loved the game BUT, there is a splash screen at the front of the game with some bowl and puzzle pieces in it. I found it extremely offensive and refuse to play games with such material!"

    I really liked Mario Galaxy 2 but that dang Nintendo logo at the front really turned me off, So I threw the game away. If anyone is reviewing a game like this they need to check themselves before the wreck themselves, and they should be ignored.

    I'm growing tired of people complaining about the splash screen. Why are people so afraid of admitting that they don't know how to code? If you do know how to code and can't stand the GameSalad splash screen then by all means, be my guest and go code your game. As for me, I don't know how to code and GameSalad is helping me create games and it's a lot of fun.
  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    GamersRejoice said:
    Do people really leave reviews saying, "I loved the game BUT, there is a splash screen at the front of the game with some bowl and puzzle pieces in it. I found it extremely offensive and refuse to play games with such material!"

    I really liked Mario Galaxy 2 but that dang Nintendo logo at the front really turned me off, So I threw the game away. If anyone is reviewing a game like this they need to check themselves before the wreck themselves, and they should be ignored.

    I'm growing tired of people complaining about the splash screen. Why are people so afraid of admitting that they don't know how to code? If you do know how to code and can't stand the GameSalad splash screen then by all means, be my guest and go code your game. As for me, I don't know how to code and GameSalad is helping me create games and it's a lot of fun.

    amen to that. Next there gonna want gs to wipe there a$$ for them :). But really they want something that requires zero coding at all, does basically the whole app build for you, is free, no splash screen, and every other feature they been complaining they want...
  • YodapolloYodapollo Inactive, Chef Emeritus Posts: 447
    Hey, everybody!

    First off, I just wanted to say that we're aware people's concerns with the splash screen and we're working on some ways to make everyone feel much better about it. To be honest, not sure where it's going to go or what the solution is going to be, but I'm sure a happy medium can be reached.

    Also, on a very happy side note: Great to see you again, @peachpellen! You have been missed greatly. It's great to hear about the success you've had and it's just plain wonderful to see your posts again here on the forums.

    --Yodapollo
  • AjBlueAjBlue Member Posts: 215
    Yodapollo said:
    Hey, everybody!

    First off, I just wanted to say that we're aware people's concerns with the splash screen and we're working on some ways to make everyone feel much better about it. To be honest, not sure where it's going to go or what the solution is going to be, but I'm sure a happy medium can be reached.

    Also, on a very happy side note: Great to see you again, @peachpellen! You have been missed greatly. It's great to hear about the success you've had and it's just plain wonderful to see your posts again here on the forums.

    --Yodapollo

    yoda, i think the ability to create our own splash screen, but has the gamesalad logo watermarked on the splash screen, at about 50x50 px size. maybe even ability to place it where they want would be a happy medium.
  • peachpellenpeachpellen Member Posts: 977
    Yodapollo said:
    Also, on a very happy side note: Great to see you again, @peachpellen! You have been missed greatly. It's great to hear about the success you've had and it's just plain wonderful to see your posts again here on the forums.

    --Yodapollo

    Thank you Yodapollo :)

    Despite the fact that I am very much loving Corona, GameSalad will always remain near and dear to me - I do hope that I can use it for future projects, especially with all the great templates I'm seeing around here lately!

    Above all else, the community here is very important to me - I got started making apps with GS and with the support of many here and I hope to be a fixture for a good time yet, even if only rarely creating my own GS projects.

    Goodnight all :)
  • EatingMyHatEatingMyHat Member Posts: 1,246
    @Siksten What an entrance... you really know how to introduce yourself is a positive way...

    I have been here for 5 minutes more than you and already seen some amazing work, which is even more amazing when you know how restrictive the platform might be sometimes. Workarounds are part of the life, art and fun of making games.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    GamersRejoice said:
    Do people really leave reviews saying, "I loved the game BUT, there is a splash screen at the front of the game with some bowl and puzzle pieces in it. I found it extremely offensive and refuse to play games with such material!"

    I have seen reviews where people bitch that this would be a great game if it wasn't made with gamesalad but honestly the only people who are not gonna buy it because of that are the same pricks that leave those comments so I really don't think its that big of an issue. Tons of games have splash screens. the only problem with the gamesalad slash screen is guys like the who started this post are probably gonna submit some half ass crap and then that GameSalad Splash will now associate that crappy game with every other game made with GameSalad. thats the only issue. I have never had a problem on any device with it loading and I really don't mind the screen. It's not something I would pay extra to get rid of.
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  • azavegaazavega Member Posts: 362
    +1 can't really understand what's the issue with the splash screen, just be serious trying to make a good game and I'm pretty sure people gonna give a s&@$ about it... Anyways when people buy your game they do it cause they like it or the icon caught their attention or they heard it's a good game or... They never get the game by the splash screen it's in from of it... Stop complaining and put your brain to work...
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