Custom templates.

DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
This is just an idea and I am only posting this because there is not a GS market place yet. For all of the template developers there is a way you could charge more and get more money! Offer custom templates for a certain price. And then do some on the side that are the same for everyone. Because some people have problems or don't know how to do some things that a template has not been made for yet. So why not offer to do custom templates. More work. More money. Just an idea. This is not an advertisement for ME to make them. I am still learning so I won't be selling templates any time soon. thanks
DL

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  • massalimassali Member Posts: 57
    Personally I think the option of helping people out instead of offering them a template is much more valuable. "Why give someone a fish, when you can teach him how to catch fish himself?"
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    massali said:
    Personally I think the option of helping people out instead of offering them a template is much more valuable. "Why give someone a fish, when you can teach him how to catch fish himself?"

    I think what is beginning to become confused is the difference in a template and a demo.
    A template should be a complete game needing only levels laid out and and new art added, a coupe of scoring systems already in place, prob even some example levels to provide layout ideas. If you have created something on this level then absolutely you should be supported in selling it. because more than likely your work will profit someone else. But a demo, which I think some of the templates being offered at the moment are really just demos, demonstrates how to perform one task how to implement a joystick. how to make something rotate from one end in stead on the center, how to establish a system to recycle your actors, etc. That should be stuff freely available to anyone who wants to use it. and if you don't want to give out your work then keep it to your self. There is always going to be exceptions to the rule. TSB's Coverflow demo. took alot of time and effort to get together. prob deserves being sold.

    Geez I have got to get off the bitchy wagon today. :)
  • SparkyidrSparkyidr Member Posts: 2,033
    I was just about to post the same thing.

    A template should be....just that. A fully working system, that's easy enough to change and add too, and is laid out in a professional and clean way.

    A template is not...a quick knock up of a 1 button game, that really just shows you how to shoot. That is a "code example" really.

    Of course, people will want code examples, and I guess as long as they are priced accordingly, it's no one elses business if they are sold....as long as there is a distinction between what is a template, and what is a code example.

    Maybe if/when GS set up a marketplace here there can be different sections for those sorts of things.
  • magic101himagic101hi Member Posts: 713
    I am here to make free templates/demos for whoever wants them.

    -Josh
  • MagoNicolasMagoNicolas Member, PRO Posts: 2,090
    magic101hi said:
    I am here to make free templates/demos for whoever wants them.

    -Josh

    I want one! I want to create a game like mines: http://www.epiggames.com/games/e-pig-rope But Endless!
  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    MagoNicolas said:
    I want one! I want to create a game like mines: http://www.epiggames.com/games/e-pig-rope But Endless!

    How did you make that rope concept? I would probably be willing to pay if you showed. haha
  • expired_012expired_012 Member Posts: 1,802
    @MagoNicolas, how about e-pig jetpack? Using my $5 icopter game template http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=15922

    It can also teach you how to do an endless style gameplay to help you with your e-pig rope game with random spawning
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    DreamLab said:
    How did you make that rope concept? I would probably be willing to pay if you showed. haha

    I'm assuming it uses vectortoangle and then magnitude and sets an actor width based on that
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    artonskyblue said:
    @MagoNicolas, how about e-pig jetpack? Using my $5 icopter game template http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=15922

    It can also teach you how to do an endless style gameplay to help you with your e-pig rope game with random spawning

    JetPig
  • laxking97laxking97 Member Posts: 114
    magic101hi said:
    I am here to make free templates/demos for whoever wants them.

    -Josh

    Canabalt? Don't have money for the paid ones (already spent 100$ on some and that's a lot for a 13 year old).
  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    laxking97 said:
    Canabalt? Don't have money for the paid ones (already spent 100$ on some and that's a lot for a 13 year old).

    I hear you on that. I am 14 and feel the same way.
    DL
  • magic101himagic101hi Member Posts: 713
    laxking97 said:
    Canabalt? Don't have money for the paid ones (already spent 100$ on some and that's a lot for a 13 year old).

    Yes I know what you are talking about as I am 14 also, but I have been working with GS for a while.

    On the Canabalt template I do not want to make a complete template and rip off other people out of some money, but I am willing to make parts of templates.

    -Josh
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    magic101hi said:
    Yes I know what you are talking about as I am 14 also, but I have been working with GS for a while.

    On the Canabalt template I do not want to make a complete template and rip off other people out of some money, but I am willing to make parts of templates.

    -Josh

    Which is what a demo/example should be
  • laxking97laxking97 Member Posts: 114
    magic101hi said:
    I am here to make free templates/demos for whoever wants them.

    -Josh

    Canabalt? Don't have money for the paid ones (already spent 100$ on some and that's a lot for a 13 year old).
  • laxking97laxking97 Member Posts: 114
    Sorry double pOsted for some reason
  • MagoNicolasMagoNicolas Member, PRO Posts: 2,090
    DreamLab said:
    How did you make that rope concept? I would probably be willing to pay if you showed. haha

    I Was thinking to Sell the WHOLE Game if there are some people interested. With the images but ULTRA LOw RES, just for you to know which image is what actor, you will no te able to use them, and they will look bad, lol.

    Anyone interested?
  • HachikoHachiko Member Posts: 330
    What I'm doing is selling my canabalt template, plus some other one that as one stated, are more like code example, like cover flow, grid, shooter, platform, and that's why the price is still 50$ for all.
    I made those to justify the price of the template, because no matter how you look at it, 50$ are already a lot of money for a gamesalad made game, and for those who know how, it really takes little time to do those (all the code samples took less than 15 minutes, while the first build of the canabalt one, the one with just white squares, took not more than 30, now lots of hours have added though :P), so I didn't feel right asking for more, but there was no meaning in selling for less (at change, 50$ are around 34-35€), so I decided to add a "plus" for people (and no one is interested at all, lol xP).
    But I really think that most code example, and even template, should be free when it's possible or where there wasn't so much work going on. When I started with GS, there were lots of templates and codes which I was able to look at, for free, and I learnt a lot from them!
    Although it's not always possible. For example, if I strip down the canabalt template, with just the logic of the paths, then there would be no need for anyone to buy, since you could just put my platform one, or darren one, or anyone, with that stripped canabalt, and probably have almost everything you need. Maybe not as optimized, maybe even more optimized, but in any case there would be no point in buying, and unfortunately I need those nasty mario coins xP
  • MagicianSoftMagicianSoft Member Posts: 2
    Hi, Can someone shave any templates they have made? I'm expecially looking for an e-pig style game. Anyone who has the project, may I have a copy?
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    MagicianSoft said:
    Hi, Can someone shave any templates they have made? I'm expecially looking for an e-pig style game. Anyone who has the project, may I have a copy?

    Im not sure you understand What we do here. While we are definitely here to help YOU with trouble you have building your games we all are for the most part here to have a good time and earn some money on the side. so No I would say no one is going to give you the project file to their game. If you want an e-pig game there is a template for sale in this marketplace.

    Good Luck
  • MagicianSoftMagicianSoft Member Posts: 2
    tenrdrmer said:
    Im not sure you understand What we do here. While we are definitely here to help YOU with trouble you have building your games we all are for the most part here to have a good time and earn some money on the side. so No I would say no one is going to give you the project file to their game. If you want an e-pig game there is a template for sale in this marketplace.

    Good Luck

    Oh I see, first day using the app as well as the site, didn't understand this whole thing but I do now. Thanks! Do you happen to have a link the e-pic template on the market place?
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=15968
    MagicianSoft said:
    Oh I see, first day using the app as well as the site, didn't understand this whole thing but I do now. Thanks! Do you happen to have a link the e-pic template on the market place?

  • DetheDethe Member Posts: 172
    may we start making more free templates that people post as a game on gamesalad and people can download it instead of using email all the time
  • magic101hi said:
    I am here to make free templates/demos for whoever wants them.

    -Josh

    Can I Get A Template Of A Block Stack Kinda Like This
    http://bit.ly/efUzu0
    Or A Template Of Labyrinth Kinda Like This
    http://bit.ly/hgkCt2

    Thanks If You Can...
    My Email Is:
    Ca6715@gmail.com
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