copyright question

GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
Is it copyright infringement to use quotes from youtube videos? Anyone know?

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  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    Probably unless you contact who created the video and get their permission
  • forkliftforklift Member Posts: 386
    From everything I've studied, copyright only protects the written word. So, for instance, the makers of saturday night live can't sue someone who makes a cowbell application unless they've registered a trademark on cowbell. You can't copyright cowbell. You can copyright a book about cowbells and you can trademark a cowbell logo.

    This is why some companies copyright proprietary code as its being programmed - incase someone jumps ship and tries to take the code somewhere else and modify it. I digress.
  • xyloFUNxyloFUN Member Posts: 1,593
    hmmm,
    i don't understand the "Saturday Night Live" reference but just so you guys know, EVERYTING that gets spoken on TV "usually" gets written by professional writers. The idea is that the host rehearses the material (while being coached one every little nuance) and then performs it in front of the camera and audience.

    I would think that most of the people who make a professional youtube video, would script it beforehand and then record/edit until it is releasable.

    As tenddrmr suggested, an email to the copyright holder (clearly stated on youtube) would be the best way to go about it unless time has little value to you :)
  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    xyloFUN said:
    hmmm,
    i don't understand the "Saturday Night Live" reference but just so you guys know, EVERYTING that gets spoken on TV "usually" gets written by professional writers. The idea is that the host rehearses the material (while being coached one every little nuance) and then performs it in front of the camera and audience.

    I would think that most of the people who make a professional youtube video, would script it beforehand and then record/edit until it is releasable.

    As tenddrmr suggested, an email to the copyright holder (clearly stated on youtube) would be the best way to go about it unless time has little value to you :)

    You make a good point, but what about non-professional videos or viral videos even?
  • forkliftforklift Member Posts: 386
    xylo, true about scripts being written, but if it's just a personal youtube video (which he never said it was or wasn't) then most likely, it isn't. And for heaven sakes, man! I need more cowbell!

  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    Just be cause it's personal doesn't me it has no protection. or that it's not written script? What about an impromptu stand up comedian. His/her jokes are copyrighted as soon as they roll out of their mouth. It really al depends on what it actually is and what the usage will be. Your best bet is email the person and ask them. if its some personal thing they did for fun then they are probably going to say go for it anyway so why risk it?
  • jamesmunro2jamesmunro2 Member Posts: 130
    Copyright is a tricky issue, and I am not sure from your question which area you are referring to.

    Using a "Quote" may not be a violation of copyrights. Quoting a small part in a review, for example, is fine. A parody is also acceptable.

    Other than that, a copyright is determined through enforcement of the courts. There is no cut and dry "That's a violation", although from past cases we can usually draw some conclusions.

    Some of those conclusions are as followed:

    An idea mentioned at a bar on a Friday night between friends is not copyrighted. Once it become written down (or on video), content begins to be protected, increasing the chances that it will be ruled protected. Adding a copyright notice and a date with your name increases it even more. Mailing the material to yourself is better. Having the paper dated by a notary is even better. Sending it off and having it registered at congress is the best. But still it would be a court that determines it.

    If you wanna give a few details I may be able to point you in the right direction. No, I'm not a lawyer. I do own a couple of intellectual properties so I have some experience.
  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Ok for example: lets say I have a level and it's a double rainbow. Then at the end of the level when you beat it there's some text that says, "It's so intense!" Would something like that be safe or should I run away screaming?
  • IsabelleKIsabelleK Member, Sous Chef Posts: 2,807
    Just my 2 cents (I'm not a native english speaker, so please excuse my poor language), copyright is owned by the creator of: the idea, video, book, photo, picture, drawing, software, other pieces of art etc. The creator doesn't have to write under his work that this is his property and you cannot use it in any way, that exceeds the personal use - His work IS ALWAYS protected by international law.
    You can use anything as the personal use, without a permission. Examples of personal use:
    1. You can show the movie on DVD that you own to anyone from your friends and family, but you cannot rent it, or make public (for example on the Internet or in cinema).
    2. You can have someone's photo on the computer, or in the frame on your desk, you can copy it and give it to your friend, but you can't make any profit from it, or use it in any form of advertisement.

    So, please remember that (shortcut):
    1. Everything that is made from an idea is protected by international copyrights. It include for example: texts (but not short news), photos, drawings, paitings, sculptures, books, videos, movies, scripts, software etc. But it dosn't include things such as: furniture (but not a unique pieces of art furniture), short news etc.
    2. Copyrights are valid, and protected by international law even if the creator doesn't write anything about it (for example: he doesn't have to write that his photo XXXX is protected and he own the copyrights). Copyrights are valid always.
    3. You can use anything that is protected by international copyrights if you use it in the personal use. I wrote few examples above.
    4. Copyrights are valid till the creator dies (I don't remember how many years have to past after his death). After that, his works belongs to everyone. So you can publish for example all books wrote by Shakespeare and make profit from it. Of course there are exceptions.
    5. If the law cannot identify the creator of (for example) a painting or book, the copyrights are no longer valid (see the 4th point).
    6. You can make quotes, but you HAVE to write an author and a source.
    7. You can make a parody of anything, but it could be tought to protect it in the court.

    That's all I think... But if I remember anything else, I will write it.
  • jamesmunro2jamesmunro2 Member Posts: 130
    I would assume the "It's so intense!" is a line from a movie or tv show or song or some other media that will easily be recognized by your players...

    I would suggest staying away if you are making a "for profit" type of app. (And by "Profit" I mean anything over 1 cent.)

    You probably won't get sued to have it removed. But, Apple is likely to reject it. (They are very big on protecting intellectual rights with regards to media.) If they don't reject it, if the person says it complains to Apple they will pull your app with nothing more than a written statement of copyright infringement, making it you who would be fighting an uphill battle to get it back in the app store. It's probably not worth the hassle.

    Remember the little game Plants vs. Zombies? They had to pull their "Dancing Zombie" because it danced like Michael Jackson and they didn't want to deal with it. (In reality, they stood a good chance of winning had it gone to court. The is a joke, a parody. Not important to game play. Historically these are not copyright infringements... Saturday Night Live would be out of business if it was.)

    If it is just a game for fun or an app for fun and there is no profit to be made give it a try if you want.
  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Thanks for the input guys, I definitely don't want to risk stepping on anybody's toes so I'll tap out here. My idea doesn't rely on this, I just thought it might be fun to add some character to it so no worries.
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