OPEN TOPIC- Corona vs. GameSalad

oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
edited November -1 in Miscellaneous
This is an open community so I believe that we should be allowed to constructively criticize GameSalad. Which is why I made this topic. Here, you can openly discuss Corona without being criticized, and you can also discuss GameSalad without being criticized... I don't hope for a giant flame battle, just an open discussion... Most of you probably already know my ideas on this topic, so I shall not post, just read.
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  • calvin9403calvin9403 Member Posts: 3,186
    oberning said:
    This is an open community so I believe that we should be allowed to constructively criticize GameSalad. Which is why I made this topic. Here, you can openly discuss Corona without being criticized, and you can also discuss GameSalad without being criticized... I don't hope for a giant flame battle, just an open discussion... Most of you probably already know my ideas on this topic, so I shall not post, just read.

    Agree, so if you want to discuss corona, just discuss it on this thread, don't discuss it here:http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=18020
  • magic101himagic101hi Member Posts: 713
    calvin9403 said:
    Agree, so if you want to discuss corona, just discuss it on this thread, don't discuss it here:http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=18020

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DO NOT DISCUSS IT THERE!!!

    -Josh
  • AsymptoteellAsymptoteell Member Posts: 1,362
    I believe chuck Norris wins in every fight, so...

    Gamesalad vs. Corona has a clear winner.
  • calvin9403calvin9403 Member Posts: 3,186
    Asymptoteell said:
    I believe chuck Norris wins in every fight, so...

    Gamesalad vs. Corona has a clear winner.

    It is it is GS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    yup chuck norris
    DL
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Oh what a surprise.

    *sighs*

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  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    nothing funnier then people that have never made a game, joined gamesalad a week ago, and dont even know the full capabilities of the software, but complain and make threads like this

    hehehe
  • oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
    Oh great QS

    *sighs*
  • calvin9403calvin9403 Member Posts: 3,186
    JohnPapiomitis said:
    nothing funnier then people that have never made a game, joined gamesalad a week ago, and dont even know the full capabilities of the software, but complain and make threads like this

    hehehe

    +1
  • oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
    JohnPapiomitis said:
    nothing funnier then people that have never made a game, joined gamesalad a week ago, and dont even know the full capabilities of the software, but complain and make threads like this

    hehehe

    I actually started about a year ago, but just recently started using the forums, but thank you very much!! Constructive criticism... I like it!! Now just talk about the actual topic, please...
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Obvious troll is obvious! :D

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  • oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
    How am I trolling?... and disregard my statement "I won't be posting", because people obviously don't get why I made this topic... please, everyone, just try to stay on the topic!!
  • iMuseiMuse Member Posts: 80
    For now GS wins if you're new to game design. Corona pulling off an actual drag drop system (not just sprite placement) with code access for advanced users would obviously win. But for now GS wins... granted you're not a programmer.
  • oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
    Thank you, iMuse, for you are the first person in this topic to actually talk about it so +1 for you...
  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    Ok, then I use this topic to tell my experiences with Corona:

    I started to make a game with Corona and I bought Lime and SpriteDeck (both are some kind of GUI for Corona), but I quickly decided not to use them, because they were complicating things for me (although they can make development easier) and I wanted to learn Corona in its native state.

    I learned very fast and I was able to make the basic design for my game very quick.
    Of course "very quick" means that I was able to accomplish the game to a certain state in about one week, what I could have accomplish in GS in one day.

    Even if GS would have taken me quicker to my goal, I prefferred Corona, simply because I believe, it is the better tool with the better support.

    If you are just a little bit interested in programming and you have a common understanding of programming logic, then you definately should try Corona.

    For being fair: working with GS for months helped me to understand LUA and object iriented programming extremely. I was able to imagine easier in code, what will happen on the screen, just because I learned how GS is working.

    My project goes on very well, although a friend of mine was so motivated when I asked him for a little help, that he took over the project and has rewritten the whole code, so it is so complex now, that I barely understand a word of it :-P

    Anyway... LUA is a really simple language for simple things (like GS, you use if-else commands very often in LUA too), but you can use it for very complex things as well.

    I will keep making games rather in Corona from now on.
    Sorry GS.
    Without being able to remove the splash screen even for 500 dollars (Corona costs 350) and with the heavy engine and no communication and all the other things, you know yourself, I don't want to be part of it.

    I still watch the forums and maybe I will post some times, because I like the community here and I will keep an I on GS, maybe a miracle happens, but I won't use the tool for active development anymore.
  • oberningoberning Member Posts: 105
    Not only does Corona cost 350 for both iOS and Android, but they are also implementing Game Center very soon!! (They just stated that today)
  • sparkzillasparkzilla Member Posts: 152
    Why is this being discussed here? This is not an open forum -- it's a GameSalad forum. It is extremely bad manners to discuss other companies software here. Discuss it on your own blog or some other site but have the basic decency not disrupt this forum.

    I come to this forum to find out about Game Salad, which is a tool that requires no coding. Why are you annoying us with topics about Corona, a tool that requires coding. If you want to hard code your games go ahead and use Corona and leave us alone.

    At this stage I am not willing to put in the time and steep learning curve to learn Corona, as I am sure, most other people in THIS forum.

    I am very happy with GameSalad. It handles every requirement I have had so far and you can create great games with it extremely quickly. The support on this forum is excellent. And it's free. I look forward to the next upgrades - if they have managed to make as good a tool as this I can only expect even better things in future.

    I hope the forum administrators will take action to remove these comparison threads so that we do not have to waste our time on them again.
  • xyloFUNxyloFUN Member Posts: 1,593
    Gamesalad and Corona are both necessary, depending on what you want to make?
    It's a little like Photoshop and illustrator which ease the task at hand!

    Corona, I hope, will never get a GUI because that would quickly ruin it's reputation which is hard to rebuild once it's gone!

    We all use multiple graphics apps so don't see why using various sdks is any different?
  • iMuseiMuse Member Posts: 80
    oberning said:
    Not only does Corona cost 350 for both iOS and Android, but they are also implementing Game Center very soon!! (They just stated that today)

    That's indeed good news, but by the time a noob like me gets his game done in corona, even GS will have GC support. (so within a year lol)
  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
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  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    sparkzilla said:
    Why is this being discussed here? This is not an open forum -- it's a GameSalad forum. It is extremely bad manners to discuss other companies software here. Discuss it on your own blog or some other site but have the basic decency not disrupt this forum.

    I come to this forum to find out about Game Salad, which is a tool that requires no coding. Why are you annoying us with topics about Corona, a tool that requires coding. If you want to hard code your games go ahead and use Corona and leave us alone.

    At this stage I am not willing to put in the time and steep learning curve to learn Corona, as I am sure, most other people in THIS forum.

    I am very happy with GameSalad. It handles every requirement I have had so far and you can create great games with it extremely quickly. The support on this forum is excellent. And it's free. I look forward to the next upgrades - if they have managed to make as good a tool as this I can only expect even better things in future.

    I hope the forum administrators will take action to remove these comparison threads so that we do not have to waste our time on them again.

    I like the second part of your statement, as it goes with the topic. but to your first part, since when, and this is out of respect and I am not trying to start a fight so please dont let this go far, since when do you make the rules? Yes I do believe that GS is GS and corona is corona so either stay on GS or go with corona.and for people to not ask corona questions here. but many people have been dying to let out the differences in these two programs. and a POSITIVE to this, is simply that the people that are just starting with GS and dont know much about it, can easily choose which one they want to go to instead of asking all the time about it which I agree sometimes gets annoying. AND this isn't a thread on corona coding and logic. its simply comparing the 2 so that others with experience can tell the difference between the two for others that dont have experience. that is all I have to say. Please no fights, as I am just stating my opinion. Continue with this subject. thanks.

    and sparkzilla, I didnt and dont intend to be offensive. So please do not take any of this in the wrong way. I am simply pointing this out. thanks

    DL
  • cbowers428cbowers428 Member Posts: 176
    just answer the question posed in the thread why are people talking about trolling? sheesh ppl these days...

    anyway, if i could code: Corona

    if i couldnt code (i cant): GS

    the end.
  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    To be honest I think, that trying to choke everything and everybody, who tries to discuss corona is not the way, how this should be handled.

    If this topic comes up so often, then something is wrong with GS, not with the users.

    Guess, how many GS vs Corona topics are on the Corona forum... right! NONE.

    So instead of trying to kill everything related to Corona, what about making a better tool with better support, so people can just smile, when somebody says "corona" (like Corona people smile, when somebody says "gamesalad")?

    I come from an ex communistic country, and guess who tried to keep the idea alive the same ways?
  • AquariusAquarius Member Posts: 282
    oberning said:
    Oh great QS

    *sighs*

    lmao nice comback...

    u know quantumsheep... for being a mod, you're a bit of a smart ass and i always catch you acting like a child.... i'm just saying.....
  • calvin9403calvin9403 Member Posts: 3,186
    someone close this or delete this
  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    Aquarius said:
    lmao nice comback...

    u know quantumsheep... for being a mod, you're a bit of a smart ass and i always catch you acting like a child.... i'm just saying.....

    Youve been here a week. Why dont you learn to use the software instead of posting useless stuff. He can act how he wants, being a sous chef doesnt mean your not alloud to voice your opinion
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Aquarius said:
    lmao nice comback...

    u know quantumsheep... for being a mod, you're a bit of a smart ass and i always catch you acting like a child.... i'm just saying.....

    For being a troll, you're very obvious. Nice try though.

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  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    calvin9403 said:
    someone close this or delete this

    why? what are your reasons for such actions?
    DL
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Aquarius said:
    lmao nice comback...

    u know quantumsheep... for being a mod, you're a bit of a smart ass and i always catch you acting like a child.... i'm just saying.....

    For being a troll, you're very obvious. Nice try though.

    Just saying...

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  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    calvin9403 said:
    someone close this or delete this

    As I said above:

    "I come from an ex communistic country, and guess who tried to keep the idea alive the same ways? "
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