New Features or A GS that works? What do you want to see?

bluelotusbluelotus Member Posts: 96
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
Ok GS community, I am just as excited as all of you about the prospect of new features. But I would like to propose the idea of communicating to the Devs that getting to a stable 1.0 version of GS is a priority before adding more features.

It is frustrating to work with this software in the state it is in (currently 0.9.2). There are too many slow downs, crashes, and glitches. And I personally feel that they are trying to beat around the bush and keep us all placated by feeding us features one at a time. They have the monopoly on easy to use app creation software, which basically means they can treat us however they please. But having that attitude is going to backfire bigtime when a newer and more functional software comes around. Which it will, especially at the pace they are updating GS. So here are some thoughts:

•I say if it is totally free software, make it open source. At least then there is a chance of bugs getting worked through and progressing out of this "sandbox" model.

•If it is paid software (many of us did have to pay for it) then I think we deserve to have a stable foundation to work on before adding more features.

*I Just want to state that I am grateful to be able to make a living using this software. But the bottom line is that I have to make a living, and if GS doesn't work and something else does, I am going to that something else. Deep down I am rooting for the Devs, I want to see tool improve. I think it can be great and I would gladly stick with it if I saw a little more logical progress.

I would love to hear others' opinions on this and I would hope the Devs would too.

Comments

  • bluelotusbluelotus Member Posts: 96
  • bluelotusbluelotus Member Posts: 96
    whoops, wrong button :P
  • beefy_clyrobeefy_clyro Member Posts: 5,394
    More features for me. I feel that we need to be on a level playing field by offering GameCenter and social networking such as twitter and facebook integration. I know GameSalad isnt that stable but im aware, i save often and as much as the slow downs are annoying, a quick restart doesnt take much.
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  • cbowers428cbowers428 Member Posts: 176
    I would be willing to reopen it every 5 minutes if it had high scores/social integration/Game Center
  • mynameisacemynameisace Hull, UKMember Posts: 2,484
    After every click I insticntly press CMD+S without thinking anymore and closing and re-opening GS doesn't bother me anymore, just a part of it.

    Ace
  • cbowers428cbowers428 Member Posts: 176
    I mean at the end of the day no gamer knows or cares how easy/difficult it was for the dev to make the game. They just want the best game possible. They don't know our struggle lol and it really doesnt matter, when your games actually complete the GS crashes are all a thing of the past. Features do last when the games done tho so it's def more important.
  • HoneyTribeStudiosHoneyTribeStudios Member Posts: 1,792
    The performance of the engine is more valuable I think. i.e being able to perform many different calculations and movements at the same time without frame rate loss. Being able to actually use handy attributes like constrain and timers would be nice!
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  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    In this market there is no 1.0. In a sense it is always beta as apple will keep adding new features to their devices and sdks like GS and others will constantly be adapting to keep up. With new features will certainly come new bugs even as old ones are squashed. I think that GS is doing about right. I would just like the pace to pick up of course. But every new build has had stability improvements along with new features. I hope they continue this model of features and stability improvements. Hopefully when they have hired the new people they are currently looking for the pace will pick up.
  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    shaz said:
    The performance of the engine is more valuable I think. i.e being able to perform many different calculations and movements at the same time without frame rate loss. Being able to actually use handy attributes like constrain and timers would be nice!

    This is true. Be able to have more moving actors in a scene would be huge!
  • dazzlemedazzleme Member Posts: 152
    Sure, stability would be nice. I've learned how to work with the issues though, so I'd like to see some much missed features!
  • EatingMyHatEatingMyHat Member Posts: 1,246
    More features, I'm ok with restarting every 10 minutes if I'm going to get many new features. However, the rate of features us not that great...
  • AquariusAquarius Member Posts: 282
    i made it a tie :p
  • simo103simo103 Member, PRO Posts: 1,331
    shaz said:
    The performance of the engine is more valuable I think. i.e being able to perform many different calculations and movements at the same time without frame rate loss. Being able to actually use handy attributes like constrain and timers would be nice!

    +100% ... have 5-6 project starts that I put aside because FPS is low and I haven't got thru adding stuff yet.
  • bluelotusbluelotus Member Posts: 96
    I am honestly surprised that so many are ok with just dealing with the slowdowns and crashes. I think restarting the program every ten minutes is appalling. And for me its more realistically like every 4 or 5 minutes. I mean what other program out there, beta or not, does this?

    @cbowers428... in one sense i agree with you. But I have to make the point that the app store is an extremely competitive, and very often time sensitive market. If the limitations of this tool makes our production time extremely slow. I spend more time waiting than I do working. I could really fly through prototyping my apps if the slow-downs and crashes weren't happening. And for this reason it is affecting my bottom line. And many other developers here as well.

    I'll also reiterate that I am not making an argument against adding features. I want the features as much as you do. I would give a happy ending for a webview, iPod and camera access, etc. But adding more features will probably make the performance even worse! It needs a serious overhaul under the hood.

    @Gabbyr... I agree that the pace of the updates is one of the issues here.
  • DreamLabDreamLab Member Posts: 2,127
    THIS IS JUST A JOKE**** ok, they say GS is the quickest way to make an app. Wrong. its the SIMPLEST way. they weren't counting crash times obviously. again, just a joke. so please dont hate.
    DL
  • AppsRacKAppsRacK Member Posts: 346
    Memory leak.....its annoying to restart or force quit GS every 5-10 mins (depending on the load of work).
  • AquariusAquarius Member Posts: 282
    u should add "a little of both" in the poll

    ::scary smile::
  • 1UpGamestudio1UpGamestudio Member Posts: 213
    I want new features and more stability.
    I have pay for gamesalad.
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