Dear GameSalad,

VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
23 crashes I've had this week and the last one f***ed my whole game. None of the rules worked, just a black screen when previewing the game. I have spent hours and money making my game all for nothing.

I have always wanted to make games for iPhone but haven't got a clue about code. One day I downloaded a game Called Running Wild and it said GameSalad on it. I thought that was the developer so I checked it out on Google for other games and couldn't believe that its was a drag and drop creator that makes games without using lines on code.
So I looked more into it and thought this is it, so went and bought a brand new Mac, installed GameSalad and here I am 3 months later very disappointed!

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  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    And yet there are plenty of people who can get on and finish and submit games just fine.

    While the software has its bugs and quirks (as does any software), surely the buck stops with you?

    For example - I've been working on several games - not had a single crash all week (or the last few months actually), and none of them got f***ed.

    And yet we both use the same software.

    QS

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  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Two words, Time Machine.
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    It's a shame :( You had such a good game on your hands.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    I find it hard to believe you are having issues with a brand new mac running Snow leopard. I have a feeling you are running lion or are running a brand new PC/hackintosh.
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  • mshannonmshannon Member Posts: 35
    I hear ya, VeiraOne. I have made a point of backing up my backups and backing those up from there.
    I had to rebuild my game as well. I think the update was 9.3 which completely broke everything. Sorry for your trouble, but don't give up! GameSalad is a very useful tool.

    I do understand your frustration.
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    Tenrdrmer, Michael should not be the one to blame if he is running Lion. Lion betas have been out for months & it is GameSalad's fault the Creator is not fully compatible, not his for updating to official Apple software.

    Matt
  • VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
    quantumsheep said:
    I've been working on several games - not had a single crash all week (or the last few months actually), and none of them got f***ed.

    And yet we both use the same software.

    Good for you
    uptimistik said:
    Please list your system specs.
    Model, OS version, Hard drive space, memory, crash report.

    2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor
    750GB 5400-rpm hard drive
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5 memory

    The rest you can read on Apples site
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    ...

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
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  • VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
    I had Gamesalad on my Mac before Lion came out. Yes I have upgraded to Lion but GameSalad was working fine until now. I will start again but just letting people know what can happen all of a sudden.
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    VeiraOne said:
    I had Gamesalad on my Mac before Lion came out. Yes I have upgraded to Lion but GameSalad was working fine until now. I will start again but just letting people know what can happen all of a sudden.

    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=28334

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  • VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
    uptimistik said:
    What model? iMac? And what version of OSX? 10.6.what
    or Lion?

    17-inch MacBook Pro
    £2,099
    2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor
    750GB 5400-rpm hard drive
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5 memory

    Processor -
    2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor with 6MB L3 cache
    Optional 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor with 8MB L3 cache

    Graphics -
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching

    Memory and Storage -
    4GB memory
    750GB 5400-rpm hard drive

    Display -
    17-inch high-resolution LED-backlit glossy or optional antiglare widescreen display
    1920x1200 pixels

    Had Snow Leopard but have upgraded to Lion (Like everybody else has)
    Had Gamesalad on it BEFORE I upgraded
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    Please note, the GameSalad team said not to upgrade.

    AFTER LION WAS RELEASED.
  • steve86steve86 Member Posts: 806
    Am I the only one that is not having problems at all with Lion? I updated the OS first thing when it came out and I haven't noticed any bugs, crashes or slow downs with GS. Have you checked your code or your rules? maybe small error crashed the whole thing.
  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    NextGen said:
    Please note, the GameSalad team said not to upgrade.

    AFTER LION WAS RELEASED.

    common next gen its common sense. It never said compatible with lion, thats what matters. Microsoft did the same thing. Anyone that upgraded did so at there own risk because it never said it was compatible for lion. There fault for assuming. Thats liek saying gamesalad should run on windows cause it doesnt say not for windows
  • VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
    quantumsheep said:
    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=28334

    Looks like I should of stopped everything I was doing just to go on the forum to read that.
    Oh well, happy days!

    Well at least I know what I'm doing now so shouldn't take me too long. Also gives me more practice, perhaps will learn something new.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    NextGen said:
    Tenrdrmer, Michael should not be the one to blame if he is running Lion. Lion betas have been out for months & it is GameSalad's fault the Creator is not fully compatible, not his for updating to official Apple software.

    Matt

    Really? I mean Really? Dd GameSalad say they supported Lion? Did they? NO!!!!!!!!!
    The day Lion was released Someone asked if GameSalad supported Lion and I Personally said NO GameSalad does not support Lion. Some have used with no issues But the Official answer is NO. So yes if lion is the issue then he is to blame. Just the same as if Jailbreaking your phone screws it up. Its not Apples Fault cause they don't support it. GameSalad doesn't support it yet. And the OMG Shock of 23 Crashes after they have publicly posted they do not support it should be no surprise.
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  • VGXVGX Member Posts: 796
    Gamesalad + Lion = your F***ed. I get it now, Thank you very much.
    YES it may be my fault for not having my faced glued to the forums just to read http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=28334

    But I can always start again not a problem. The whole point of this post was to let people know what can happen to your game all of a sudden. So read below
    GamersRejoice said:
    Two words, Time Machine.

  • ZimioZimio Member Posts: 8
    GamersRejoice is specially right: Remember that though GS is a great tool, it is still in beta and it's prone to bugs/crashing. Good luck with your game.
  • KrogothicKrogothic Member, PRO Posts: 123
    I started a few months ago, just just released Martian Rescue ! And I also have a FT job , and a family.

    The time you save will save you money in the long run.

    I use an external hard drive to store everything, prolly the safest thing you could do to combat crash's.

    I have to admit GS is crashing less and less and I think I work it hard.

    Stick with it !
  • MagoNicolasMagoNicolas Member, PRO Posts: 2,090
    Hope You Make the Code again and make it Better :D

    I Upgrade To Lion, and haven't have any slow down, and no more than 3 crashes. (On Snow Leopard it did never crush)

    But Now, I Really save a LOT of versions, and not online on my iMAc, I also backup on time machine and with Dropbox!

    Cheers.
  • TheHooglerTheHoogler Member Posts: 102
    Its funny that everyone upgraded to Lion right away. As a former PC user, I was always aware that all of my software wouldn't be immediately compatible with the next version of Windows. It always took time for the software to catch up. I didn't notice anything particularly great about Lion that made me rush out and upgrade. Maybe I missed something.
  • InLikeFlynnInLikeFlynn Member Posts: 171
    Have you sent your project file into support? They're slow right now, but in the past they've helped me recover a messed up project.

    Time machine is a good idea. I prefer to do it manually with dropbox though. Then you can include the major changes you've made in the file name, and not have to worry about hardware failure like ts said.
  • calvin9403calvin9403 Member Posts: 3,186
    hope GS will have auto save and versions soon

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  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    TheHoogler said:
    I didn't notice anything particularly great about Lion that made me rush out and upgrade. Maybe I missed something.

    FULL SCREEN CHESS?!
  • jonmulcahyjonmulcahy Member, Sous Chef Posts: 10,408
    While lion is not supported, I did use gamesaad to finish a long way home exclusively on lion for the last few weeks. It did crash more often, but it worked fine.

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  • gamedivisiongamedivision Member Posts: 807
    gamesalad was working fine for me on lion until last night then it crashed about 20 times in a row so i gave up and switched off.
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