Xcode Or GS

iWiniWin Member Posts: 334
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
i know that GS is a great tool to make games and its a lot of fun but i hear a lot that Xcode has many more game making tools..My goal is to learn the Xcode programming language and move onto that platform. Eventhough GS is great, Xcode has a wider range of opportunities..What do you guys think??

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  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    Hm?

    Of course it has a wider range of opportunities. You learn a programing language (Objective C) and you program in Xcode. Xcode is just the environment, you code in. It is no toolset or something. There are no fancy buttons and such.

    GS is also based on Xcode and objective C I assume.
    It is made for idiots like me, who can't learn programing.

    So if you want to learn Objective C and code your games yourself, I wish you luck. You can do everything then, but it takes time to learn programing.
  • EastboundEastbound Member, BASIC Posts: 1,074
    Well I've been learning C++, Java, python, and some other languages in college, and I started out trying to work with xCode. And trust me, it is pretty damn hard, especially if it's the first real programs you're trying to make (all of my previous projects were simply command line).

    So I don't want to discourage you, but it would take a very long time to even learn the basics, and it would take much much longer to create a game even if you are extremely experienced.
  • JamesZeppelinJamesZeppelin Member Posts: 1,927
    Think of it this way you go into a forest and you need to get a tree down gs is you chainsaw. Yes you are still in the forest (Xcode) but it sure is easy that some gave you the tools
  • rebumprebump Member Posts: 1,058
    In Xcode, you would have to roll alot of the pieces that GS has already created (or borrowed...physics engine) for you. You sure would have greater control but your time to market would be a lot, lot longer. GS lets you take alot of things for granted (while lacking some things you would dearly love...for now).
  • SDMGSDMG Member Posts: 280
    if you want something with more control i would look for another gameengine... objectiveC is really no fun... but hey to each his own... btw firemaplegames has posted a good link to some basic programming videos to learn the concepts of programming :

    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=2919

    cheers

    SDMG
  • rebumprebump Member Posts: 1,058
    There are some third-party gaming SDKs you can use. I believe they tie in at the objective-c level. One is AirPlay if I remember. Indie is pretty cheap, but if you get a hit you could pay quite a bit.

    There are some other "converters" out there that take an HTML5/javascript app and convert it to a native iPhone (and/or Android amongst others) app. Looks promising but you still need to roll your own physics engine, sprite engine, etc. in javascript and HTML5's graphics support (canvas). The bonus is develop once and deploy to many device platforms.
  • iDeveloperziDeveloperz Member Posts: 1,169
    I wouldn't say im an expert but i know quite a bit of Objective -C if anyone wants to learn.
  • JoshKahaneJoshKahane Member Posts: 470
    I am at Sixth Form currently now (UK not sure if you have it in other countries like US) but I am studying Computing and learning C# but desperately want to learn Objective-C, I am very new, know very little to nothing and would absolutely love to learn.

    I have always had macs, lived of them in-fact, never really leave my computer, haha. I would like to think GS is a stepping stone into the programming side, as it has helped slightly make sense of some things in the development process. Anyway, I want to learn objective-c! Haha. Currently I am just watching youtube tutorials.
  • iDeveloperziDeveloperz Member Posts: 1,169
    Alright then i will send you some sample codes and if you add me on AIM or something i will show you what to do :)

    email - ideveloperz@me.com
    AIM - ideveloperz
    Website with forum - www.ideveloperz.com
  • harrioharrio Member Posts: 234
    what's cookin,

    itunes university has a whole course on programming for the the iphone sdk including objective-c. it has video and pdf slides taught by stanford university...for free.

    http://itunes.stanford.edu/

    there are many other free podcasts on itunes that teach about iphone development as well.

    noodles...
  • iDeveloperziDeveloperz Member Posts: 1,169
    i have just added a UIAlertView tutorial on my website :D

    www.ideveloperz.com
  • iWiniWin Member Posts: 334
    i understand Xcode is a lot harder but when you go to college for computer programming is will be crucial to know Objective C or C++ for more advanced games
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