no money with iAd outside the USA

perfectanswerperfectanswer PRO Posts: 121
edited November -1 in Business and Marketing Theory
Hi,

I am a pro user and use the iAd in one of my free apps. as you can see in the attached screenshot, iAd works really bad for me outside the usa.
Link to iTunesConnect Screenshot
In the beginning I enabled all countries to download the free app (exactly the same app as the $1.99 app, but with advertisement from iAd). After about 2 weeks I realize only us market works. I am from germany and most advertisements request comes from germany, but apple can't serve Ads in a way like on the us market.

This brings a situation, where it make no sense to download the $1.99 app, because the free version did not show any Ad in most countries and can be used like the full version.

This issue kills the marketing strategy total!

From my pov we need one of the other Ad networks to make money with the pro version.

The only difference to the free version at this time is a expensive, $500.00 custom splash screen.

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  • ocindahouseocindahouse Member Posts: 24
    The same thing happens to people who have an ipod touch and its not connected to wifi, the iad bar doesn't even show. It's a problem no matter what, but I do agree, there should be more support to outside US ads. Don't tell me the US is the only country that makes tons on money from advertisement.
  • perfectanswerperfectanswer PRO Posts: 121
    On the IAd page you find this:

    "Ad advertisements are currently being served to apps on the U.S., U.K., Germany, Italy, Spain, France, and Japan App Stores."

    As you can see on my screenshot above, on 3553 Requests comes 6 (in Words SIX) Impressions. This is a revenue of $0.02!

    Than have a look at United States: 2101 Requests and 2017 Impression. with a Revenue of $37.23

    Again, this is not a technical issue of GS, but the decision to use a ad-network that works nearly only for US, for a international product, can't understand this....

    Anyway, I hope the long-promised InApp Purchase feature comes in the next release.
    Double cross your fingers with me ;))
  • perfectanswerperfectanswer PRO Posts: 121
    @sss
    Excuse me for omit the other feature of the pro version.
    Maybe I explained it not good enough, what could be because I am not a native english speaker. But from the (typical) marketing strategy to bring you app in a pay and a free version with ads on the market, make this only sense, if you create a motivation to buy the full version.

    The buyer of the app can choose between this two options, but I want make money with booth decisions ;)

    The other pro features like leader board or external links are great features and a plus for an app that comes with a regular price, but they are not a big help for a return of investment if you have a free version.

    That link obviously does not include the other Pro-specific features soon to come online.
    Sorry, but this song plays for a very long time in the radio ;) I believe it, when I have a working copy on my mac within the time my license is running.

    looking forward to see InAp Purchase very soon.

    regards
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    @perfectanswer,

    I'd be curious to know how the heck you have managed to get a 96% fill rate period.

    What app is this? I have never in my life heard of someone getting a fill rate like that anywhere. even on the other ad platforms.

    and I think SSS is referring to the access to GameCenter as well. Which for some reason people demand in their games even when there is really no point. If the customer expects it then that $500 is well worth it. Its not GS fault you didn't use that feature.
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  • perfectanswerperfectanswer PRO Posts: 121
    Leaderboards means GameCenter, i wrote it already above.
    It's not a question of "worth", if Gamecenter is in pro, than have it to be worth the money.
    btw. I use Gamecenter in a actual game, but Gamecenter makes no money, like Ads or InApp Purchase. And I never said it's GS fault when Apple have no Ad's to share in other countries.

    Furthermore is the question, WHY GS make a decision for iAP and not for e.g. AdMob or similar ad networks?

    I don't know the facts with IAd, before I purchased the pro version, and give it to a translating agency to translate this app in the 6 main languages. Furthermore I believed the roadmap and wait with another game on the InApp Purchase, but a few days after deadline I read here about it comes at a later release. Don't try to sell me something I have already bought ;)

    I am not only a pro member, I am a customer and people like me, they payed the $499, make all this here possible and the basement for the next years here at GS. From a commercial point of view, I buy this License to make money with it. That's the simple truth.

    The filtrate of 96% comes from an IPad app. It's a app for children and I tunes connect ask me if this app is for a audience under 14 or so. I say yes to this, but have no idea if this is the reason for the high filrate.

    @sss: I am pretty interested in the results from your marketing talking, don't forget me ;)

    best regards
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    But what is the app? Can I have a link? Why do people always act like their app that is apparently doing well is a big secret? I mean if its listed on the app store its a public thing so What is the app.

    Although I am am a bit disappointed apple would serve more ads to kids. I think its crap to put ads in a children's app period.

    But back to the point. What is the app? name and Link Please.
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  • perfectanswerperfectanswer PRO Posts: 121
    I don't believe apple served more ads to kids, I think there are less apps for receiving the ads and sorting out all the "not for childs ads". But as I wrote above, It's only a assumption of me, maybe we are wrong in every single point ;)

    The link?
    Funny, your asking sound exactly like as the police who checked my driver license last night.
    (knock on window, on hand back on the gun)
    Sir, is this your Car? ID-Card and license please.

    Don't want the link public here, but leave your mail here I will send it to you.

    best regards
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    You can send it to my PM.

    The link is public. Its on iTunes it does not even make sense why you would not want it posted publicly everywhere.
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  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    tenrdrmer said:
    You can send it to my PM.

    The link is public. Its on iTunes it does not even make sense why you would not want it posted publicly everywhere.

    /dons deerstalker

    Elementary my dear Watson!

    I found it easily enough ;)

    /smokes pipe
    /plays violin

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Quantum_Sheep
    Web: https://quantumsheep.itch.io

  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    Hadn't actually looked. LOL Found it though. My thoughts are pretty well confirmed. ;)
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  • samurai2020samurai2020 Member Posts: 32
    I agree that we need to add more ad networks. And the best solution here is - Adwhirl.com integration. One SDK allow you to serve tones of ad networks and in-house advertising as well.
  • JohnPapiomitisJohnPapiomitis Member Posts: 6,256
    haha when someone refuses to post a link, you can guess the quality of it. Your trying to make money off something with iads but your too embarrassed to post a link?

    Any quality dev would want there link posted as much as possible.

    sketchy sketchy
  • gmedina.172gmedina.172 Member Posts: 94
    the pro version is 500 dollars a year?!?!
  • CodeCodeCodeCode Member Posts: 200
    JohnPapiomitis said:
    haha when someone refuses to post a link, you can guess the quality of it. Your trying to make money off something with iads but your too embarrassed to post a link?

    Any quality dev would want there link posted as much as possible.

    sketchy sketchy

    In my opinion you are not acting like a Shous Chef should do, this comment is just unnecessary and offensive.
    By the way it is easy to find his game and see that it is just a simple but nice looking memory game for kids.
  • SnapFireSnapFire Member Posts: 361
    gmedina.172 said:
    the pro version is 500 dollars a year?!?!

    Yes. Has been for quite a while now...

    I also think that it is odd not to post the link publicly as much as possible. But that is his decision and not ours.

    -Thomas
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