How Lucrative Is The GameSalad Marketplace? How well have you done?

DepressedPandaDepressedPanda Member Posts: 215
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Greetings cool cats. Been thinking about contributing to the GameSalad market place in terms of templates. If you have any experience selling your templates... how well have you done? I'm wondering if there's actually more profit to be made creating original templates than making games.

Naturally if you have a killer game that gets picked up it's an easy choice... but I'm just wondering how well people are doing with templates.

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  • capitalcarnagecapitalcarnage Member Posts: 371
    If there was better quality control on the marketplace and a better user experience it could work very well, unfortunately some of the content is garbage and its core functionality is lacking at the moment, maybe as and when resources at GS free up they could really have an effective marketplace.
  • part12studiospart12studios Member Posts: 620
    I've never done it, but if you're wanting to do it, I would say just do it and try it and see. I'm not sure how open folks will be sharing financial success in this area. People are doing it so it must work on some level and that should be enough motivation for you to give it a stab.. put it up for sale.. if it doesn't pay off.. publish a game with the template.
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    If there was better quality control on the marketplace and a better user experience it could work very well, unfortunately some of the content is garbage and its core functionality is lacking at the moment, maybe as and when resources at GS free up they could really have an effective marketplace.
    Absolutely agree, some on the stuff on there is shocking 8-X In fact I'd say the majority of artwork was very low quality, the overall effect is to make the marketplace as a whole look like a very amateur effort.
  • capitalcarnagecapitalcarnage Member Posts: 371
    @socks - completely agree
  • ChakkuChakku Member Posts: 1,513
    Hmm...if only there was a decent marketplace that allows good developers to post their stuff with paid marketing to support their endeavor plus access to instant reporting (and payments!) and an easy to navigate and sort online store.....that'd be awesome ;)
    I once saw a website named http://gshelper.com
    Very well designed ;)

    Chakku
  • RPRP Member Posts: 1,990
    Agreed. The Marketplace needs a major rework/overhaul. Low quality assets and simplified images (assets made from photos, I'm sure I've seen some of those on flickr or google images before) need to be pulled.

    I've got stuff on the MP, stuff sells, but I'm exactly encouraged to make new content when it lost in the odd method of listing our assets. At least I can usually find it via a search.

    Aside from fixing the obvious stuff, they should interrogate game needs specific searches like: So what kind of game are you making? Shooter?, RPG?, Platformer? etc. and list asset content related to what the designer wants to make. Suggestions to related items, or even art styles for consistency. But, I'm sure I'm waaaay overboard here.
  • capitalcarnagecapitalcarnage Member Posts: 371
    edited March 2013
    Although the old forum thread used to be a bump fest it was far easier to find good content on it and I would bet sales are down since the switch over
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited March 2013
    @uptimistik
    Hmm...if only there was a decent marketplace that allows good developers to post their stuff with paid marketing to support their endeavor plus access to instant reporting (and payments!) and an easy to navigate and sort online store.....that'd be awesome ;)
    Hmmm . . . :)) I wonder ?

    But gshelper don't sell assets (music, animations, characters, backgrounds - etc) as far as I'm aware ?

    @capitalcarnage
    @socks - completely agree
    Sure there are a few decent assets in there but they are absolutely lost in the sheer ocean of low quality artwork. I think the whole thing reflects badly on GameSalad's image. For example I've made a near identical copy of an asset selling for $2.99 (I didn't want to link to the original as this is not about pointing fingers at - or naming - individual artists) . . .

    image
    this is pretty much as it appears, a black flattened semicircle, it's described as a 'mountain'.

    . . . looking at this made me wonder whether GS have a vetting system, or do they just let you upload anything you want once you are approved as a seller, does anyone know ?
  • SnapFireStudiosSnapFireStudios Member Posts: 1,603
    @Socks - Pretty sure you can upload anything.
    - Thomas
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  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    @Socks - Pretty sure you can upload anything.
    - Thomas
    @SnapFireStudios

    Cheers for the reply, I suppose that would explain the situation. I've sold stock artwork/footage since ( . . . quickly disappears to find out the exact length of time) . . . . . since 27 Jul 2006 !! (didn't realise it was that long !!), so that's coming up for 7 years now, and everywhere I sell or have sold stuff has had a pretty robust vetting/QC system, the result is a vibrant, busy and high quality market that people want to visit and spend their money in, I can't see why GS's marketplace can't be like that too, but they'd have to put some kind of quality controls in place - at the moment it's a bit of a junk yard.
  • DigiChainDigiChain Member, PRO Posts: 1,288
    @uptimistik - so are you saying that gshelper accepts templates etc from 3rd party sellers? I can't seeing anything on the site that suggests that.
  • DigiChainDigiChain Member, PRO Posts: 1,288
    @uptimistik - understood, PM sent.
  • ChakkuChakku Member Posts: 1,513
    Although there is some nice stuff on the GS Marketplace, much of it is low-quality. The best things there, are from 3rd party marketplaces (as in DBA or GSHelper). :)) This makes me wonder if more purchases are made in DBA/GSHelper than GS's official marketplace. Regarding GSHelper having 3rd party contributers, if quality is controlled well, it could really become a great GS Marketplace.

    Chakku
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    @Socks keep your eyes peeled over the next few days
    Do you want me to do a 'mountain' for you ?
  • DhondonDhondon Member Posts: 717
    edited March 2013
    Mountain 1: "It's not game art. Just art":)
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited March 2013
    Mountain 1: "It's not game art. Just art":)
    @dhondon

    Maybe you're right, maybe the actual image itself is not even the art, maybe the act of making it and then uploading it to the Marketplace is a piece of conceptual art.

    What do you think of this, it's called "our fears cannot know the abyss of the introspective cavity" ($4.99)

    image

    Maybe the Marketplace would work better as an art gallery ?
  • capitalcarnagecapitalcarnage Member Posts: 371
    @socks - should have watermarked that
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited March 2013
    @socks - should have watermarked that
    The lack of a watermark is part of the profound postmodern comment I am making about the absurdity of an empirical epistemology. It is its own watermark, we are all 'watermarks'.

    {goes and has a cup of coffee and trys really hard to grow a beard}

  • DepressedPandaDepressedPanda Member Posts: 215
    @socks - should have watermarked that
    The lack of a watermark is part of the profound postmodern comment I am making about the absurdity of an empirical epistemology. It is it's own watermark, we are all 'watermarks'.

    {goes and has a cup of coffee and ttys really hard to grow a beard}
    Already stole it. It's going to be the centerpiece of our new title called "Ovals". It's ironic.
  • capitalcarnagecapitalcarnage Member Posts: 371
    @socks - your grasp of the english language is outstanding, and thats coming from me Mr D at GCSE
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    Already stole it. It's going to be the centerpiece of our new title called "Ovals". It's ironic.
    I was hoping this would happen, your theft will form part of my next work 'Stealing, who is the theif and who is the victim?' ($3.99 PNG / JPEG)
  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited March 2013
    @socks - your grasp of the english language is outstanding, and thats coming from me Mr D at GCSE
    I wonder if we can upload words to the Marketplace, I can see them being popular, especially to people who aren't particularly good at spelling ?

    'Spiders' (capitalised, plain text / $1.99)
    'spiders' (lowercase, plain text / $1.49)
  • DenimSharkDenimShark Member Posts: 192
    Mountain 1: "It's not game art. Just art":)
    @dhondon

    Maybe you're right, maybe the actual image itself is not even the art, maybe the act of making it and then uploading it to the Marketplace is a piece of conceptual art.

    What do you think of this, it's called "our fears cannot know the abyss of the introspective cavity" ($4.99)

    image

    Maybe the Marketplace would work better as an art gallery ?

    Damnn! Look at those brushstrokes

    Templates: 2048 • Pinch Zoom • Easy Universal Build • Fruit Ninja Blade Effect • 4 Pics 1 Word • Offline Timer

  • SnapFireStudiosSnapFireStudios Member Posts: 1,603
    'Thisistotallyarealword' (capitalised, plain text / $199)
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  • BazookaTimeBazookaTime Member Posts: 1,274
    I have had stuff on the Market Place for a while and also purchased stuff on the market place.

    At one point GS raised the minimum sell price to 2.99 per item so that is why you will see some stuff overpriced. Sadly, the Market Place is run rather poorly. It is over crowded, disjointed and the seller get zero sales information until over a month later.

    Now take into account no PayPal (which I understand why) and I am sure most sellers sales will go down. Unless you have some amazing piece to add to the Market Place, might not be worth it. I have had an item featured as a popular asset that has still never sold a copy.:-)

    If GS Helper, DeepBlueApps and others can offer good sites for GameSalad assets, you would think that GameSalad could do it as well, especially since they took away the ability to sell in the forums.

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    www.paulmcraelind.com finished/unfinished GS Games....$50 and up!
  • zzap64zzap64 Member Posts: 405
    This thread made me chuckle, nice way to end a Sunday.
  • lycettebroslycettebros Member, PRO Posts: 1,598
    I so get you @Socks. I am so post-post modern that I am not even going to comment.






    ...damn!
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