SNOW Leopard

Rob2Rob2 Member Posts: 2,402
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
Are you using Snow Leopard?

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  • firemaplegamesfiremaplegames Member Posts: 3,211
    I'm pretty sure you need it for iPad Development.
    The new iPhone SDK requires it.

    That is why I upgraded a few weeks ago.
    I haven't noticed any problems so far.
  • Rob2Rob2 Member Posts: 2,402
    But youstill get just as many crashes with GS?...ever had a kernel panic?
  • firemaplegamesfiremaplegames Member Posts: 3,211
    GS never crashes for me.

    I do get the same slow down issues that everybody has.
    I have to quit/restart GS every 5 minutes to "speed" it back up again.

    GS did give me a kernel panic once when i just started using it, back in December.
    It has not done that since.

    I am not sure what causes kernel panics. Somebody mentioned heat? Could it be the RAM getting used up or the processor getting overworked?

    I have 8GB of RAM if that makes a difference.
  • IntelligentDesignerIntelligentDesigner Member Posts: 517
    What is a "Kernel Panic"?
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    I think it's like a Blue Screen of Death that you get on a PC.

    I've never had one *touches wood*

    I don't see the issue with upgrading to Snow Leopard. It's very good, and very cheap! :D

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  • SingleSparqSingleSparq Member Posts: 1,339
    As I mentioned when this was brought up the other night - I had 3 in that evening alone. I can pretty well guarantee I can make it happen just by trying to run a shared project from GS, but once I restart and try that same project it's fine. I've given up trying to figure out why and just make sure I have back ups as I work or if I'm going to try something I know it won't like.
  • JGary321JGary321 Member Posts: 1,246
    Quantum these are family friendly forums, please refrain from vulgar comments.

    =)
  • SteelCloverGamesSteelCloverGames Member Posts: 18
    Upgraded to Snow Leopard a few days ago for iPhone development and everything is running fine for me.
  • KamazarKamazar Member Posts: 287
    quantumsheep said:
    I think it's like a Blue Screen of Death that you get on a PC.

    I've never had one *touches wood*

    I don't see the issue with upgrading to Snow Leopard. It's very good, and very cheap! :D

    Erm, I'm not sure if the phrase is different over in ye Britain, but I would advise you not to use the phrase *touches wood* in the foreseeable future or until "wood" ceases to be a euphemism for... yeah.

    Seriously, there's nothing to keep anyone from getting Snow Leopard. It's $30, installs fast, and hasn't caused any problems besides sadly losing compatibility with a game (it was $15 and I never played it, though).
  • KamazarKamazar Member Posts: 287
    Edit: I guess I clicked the wrong button.
  • ORBZORBZ Member Posts: 1,304
    Kernel Panics are most commonly caused by bad ram. Excessive heat can also do it. You may have a defective motherboard. File permissions could be wrong too (try fixing your file permissions with Disk Utility). You could have a dying hard disk. Check the S.M.A.R.T. status with SmartUtil.

    In short, because GameSalad Creator has memory leaks it can chew up a lot of memory really quick. This causes a lot of virtual memory to be used on macs with less ram. This also means that your ram is being "flashed" a lot more. If you have a bad chip, GS will more likely than other programs cause it to "blow" simply because it uses so much ram to run.

    Solution: Run some Mac diagnostic tools. It's not GS, it's your mac. Although GS is causing the problems to show up easier.

    Also, you may have some weird kernel extensions installed. Do any hacking or run pirated software?

    I would do this:
    Check the temperature. smcFanControl does this nicely. Anything near 100C is to hot!
    Run SmartUtil to check your hard drive (download this check the SMART status of your hard drive)
    Run diagnostic tools to test the ram. TechToolDelux is nice (download it)
    Repair file permissions with Disk Utility (built into your mac)
    Reset your PRAM (google it)

    Basically, your mac is having problems. GS having obscene memory leaks (worse than any other mac program i've ever used *hint* *hint* devs) is causing the bad hardware to show itself more often.

    As to memory leaks: WTF GS? Objective-C 2.0 has garbage collection! What's up?!

    Check the temperature. smcFanControl does this nicely. Anything near 100C is to hot!

    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html
  • Rob2Rob2 Member Posts: 2,402
    Top of the list is often hardware but there are loads of things that can cause a kernel panic, and on that list are programming errors....GS need to get the whole issue of stability sorted out.
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