Need help with Gameover scene please? :)

allc1865

Hello everyone! I need help with my gameover scene When my actor dies, the game over picture comes up, but only in one area. I wanted it to show up wherever the player is. Also, when the game over scene shows up, you can still use the controls to shoot and move, even though the actor has been destroyed. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
Here's the link to my template:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bicm3ervqd8ho3f/GameOver scene Template.zip

-Timo-

make a boolean attribute.
if game.boolean is false
do everything so you can move.

if player dies
do change game.boolean to true (so you cant move anymore)

something like that hope this helped

-Timo-

I think it has already been suggested by someone else but:

place the game over actor in a non scrollable layer and put his alpha to 0
if game.health is 0 do change self.color.alpha to 1
(now you wont need the change rotation to 0)

KillerPenguinStudios

@allc1865, I sent you a message with details on everything I did to get it working for you as well as notes in the project. Let me know how that works out for you!

-Timo-

I think it has already been suggested by someone else but:

place the game over actor in a non scrollable layer and put his alpha to 0
if game.health is 0 do change self.color.alpha to 1
(now you wont need the change rotation to 0)

If it is in a non scrollable layer then it wont work properly.

you sure?
I made a little template https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yh38ojjbize1aqd/9A_E9p4-4O

allc1865

@timolapre1998, thanks for replying! That worked thanks! Another problem is that my game over picture only appears on one place, so if my player is somewhere else, when he dies, you won't see the picture. Any way to fix this? Thanks

-Timo-

you can constrain the game over picture with the player maybe? as I am not on windows I cant play your game so I don't know how you are doing the game over

allc1865

I'm on Mac I did also try contraining the picture to the player, didn't work though Thanks

allc1865

constraining*

-Timo-

I am so stupid change your picture so I know who you are
I always open the wrong project for some reason. I don't know why. maybe I am just stupid?
you probably wont believe it but I just went to my windows xD I will look at it when I am on mac and when my homework is done... (and my sister is now on mac )

tatiang

@allc1865 When something seems like it should work but doesn't, the best course of action is to post a screenshot (see my signature for instructions) of the rule you're having trouble with.

In this case, my guess is that you have set the position of the game over actor to relative to scene instead of relative to actor, but I won't know for sure until I see your rule.

-Timo-

In this case, my guess is that you have set the position of the game over actor to relative to scene instead of relative to actor, but I won't know for sure until I see your rule.

thats a good guess
you are spawning the game over actor relative to scene. just change this the position offset to X = 0 and
Y = 0 and relative to scene.
you also want to put the behavior change self.rotation to 0 inside the game over actor

PS when you download the project on windows its a windows project. when you download on mac its and mac project. just noticed that and this wasnt before not sure if this also works backwards

KillerPenguinStudios

@allc1865 Why don't you just have, if player dies is true, change image??? Just a thought.

allc1865

Ahhh, yes. That was my problem. I had my X and Y set to something other than 0. Also, as @tatiang said, my position of the game over actor was relative to scene instead of relative to actor... That works now. But here is what I'm trying to get it to look like: when your pplayer dies, the game over menu shows up where, and would say like, retry, menu, etc.
Right now, where ever the player is, that's where the menu shows up as shown below:

It is over in the right hand side of the screen where the actor was instead of centered; how I want it to be
Here's my actor player rules:

....
and here's the rules for my game over actor:


Thanks, everyone!

allc1865

I wanted it to show up centered on the screen is what I meant
@timolapre1998, thanks for your help, that worked!
@KillerPenguinStudios, hi, thanks for the reply. That is a good idea, however I think I would run into one problem which what I'm having trouble with now, getting my game over picture to be centered Thanks!

-Timo-

you can make another scene with the game over image and buttons to go to menu, retry etc.
you have to make a integer attribute.
when player dies
do
pause game (scene game over)

when player menu is pressed change integer to 1
unpause game.

when retry button is pressed change integer to 2

inside the player (or something else inside the play scene)
if integer is 1 change scene to menu

if integer is 2 reset scene.

hope this helps

KevinCross

Ihowever I think I would run into one problem which what I'm having trouble with now, getting my game over picture to be centered Thanks!

To centre an actor/image it's just a case of saying

self.position.X = game.Screen.Size.Width / 2

And it's the same vertically:

self.position.Y = game.Screen.Size.Height / 2

-Timo-

Ihowever I think I would run into one problem which what I'm having trouble with now, getting my game over picture to be centered Thanks!

To centre an actor/image it's just a case of saying

self.position.X = game.Screen.Size.Width / 2

And it's the same vertically:

self.position.Y = game.Screen.Size.Height / 2

thats not possible as the scene is bigger then you can see. he is using control camera.
your player is always in the middle and you have in the player if health = 0 spawn actor game over. so then he is in the middle?

KevinCross

thats not possible as the scene is bigger then you can see. he is using control camera.
your player is always in the middle and you have in the player if health = 0 spawn actor game over. so then he is in the middle?

I won't lie, I didn't read the posts above the one I commented too.

allc1865

@KevinCross, thanks for your reply! Would that be a change attribute behavior? My game over attribute is a boolean, so I couldn't do the "=". Thanks again

allc1865

@timolapre1998, yes, I could do a change scene, but I kind of wanted it to appear on the same screen I may just change scenes though.

-Timo-

you also can put it in one scene.
you just have to play wth the values though.
if player health = 0
do
spawn actor, menu button
x -200 y -100 relative to actor
spawn actor retry button
x 200 y -100 relative to scene

and just in the buttons what you want to do.
if touch is pressed go to menu or restart scene
hope this helped

KevinCross

thats not possible as the scene is bigger then you can see. he is using control camera.
your player is always in the middle and you have in the player if health = 0 spawn actor game over. so then he is in the middle?

@allc1865 if the scene is bigger than the screen like @timolapre1998 says, and the player is always in the middle of the screen because it controls the camera, can you not spawn the game over image/actor in the same position as the player?

And yes I was referring to change attributes in my example above. Those two change attributes would go on the game over actor when it's spawned or you could just put the second part of each (the game.Screen.Size.Height & Width part) on the Spawn Actor behavior, depending on what spawns the game over actor.

allc1865

@KevinCross,

...can you not spawn the game over image/actor in the same position as the player?

Yes, but if my actor is at the right hand side of the screen, then my game screen would show up there, to the right of the screen. : )

KevinCross

Fair enough, I'ma leave this thread now to those that have read it all. Good luck!

allc1865

Thanks for your help

-Timo-

sure, no problem...

KillerPenguinStudios

Hey @allc1865, The reason I suggested to just have, if player dies is true, change image is because in your post you said, "I wanted it to show up wherever the player is." lol
Well if you are controlling the camera try this. Have your game over image in your scene somewhere where it's not seen during gameplay.

In the game over attribute, give it a Start X and Start Y integer.
Tell the object to change Start X to self.position.X
and Change Start Y to self.position.Y

(This next part must be done by unlocking the actor in the scene)
In a rule: When game over is true
Change self.position.X to camera X
Change self.position.Y to camera Y

Otherwise:
Change self.position.X to Start X
Change self.position.Y to Start Y

This is just a thought off the top of my head as I am not 100% sure how your game works! Let me know how that goes!

allc1865

@KillerPenguinStudios, okay. So I have the gameOver picture in the seen out of the way so it can't be seen during gameplay.
I went into the attributes panel (not the attributes in the actor itself) and made two integer attributes called Start X and Start Y. I went into the gameOver actor and said change attribute > game.Start X to self.Position.X
Then I made another change attribute and said > game.Start Y > self.Position.Y
Then I went into the gameOver actor in the scene - unlocked it and said > Rule > when game.GameOver is true > change attribute self.Position.X to scene.Camera.Origin.X;
change attribute > self.Position.Y to scene.Camera.Origin.Y
otherwise > change attribute > self.Position.X to game.Start X;
change attribute > self.Position.Y to game.Start Y.

Is that right?
Thanks

tatiang

That looks close. The camera origin is at the bottom-left of the scene. If you want the center of your game over actor to be in the center of the scene, you'll need to add half the scene's width and half the scene's height to your camera origin x and y, respectively.

KillerPenguinStudios

That looks close. The camera origin is at the bottom-left of the scene. If you want the center of your game over actor to be in the center of the scene, you'll need to add half the scene's width and half the scene's height to your camera origin x and y, respectively.

Oh yes, forgot to add that in there. Was doing 100 different things when I was typing that up so it's understandable I would have missed something. HAHAHA

@KillerPenguinStudios, okay. So I have the gameOver picture in the seen out of the way so it can't be seen during gameplay.
I went into the attributes panel (not the attributes in the actor itself) and made two integer attributes called Start X and Start Y. I went into the gameOver actor and said change attribute > game.Start X to self.Position.X
Then I made another change attribute and said > game.Start Y > self.Position.Y
Then I went into the gameOver actor in the scene - unlocked it and said > Rule > when game.GameOver is true > change attribute self.Position.X to scene.Camera.Origin.X;
change attribute > self.Position.Y to scene.Camera.Origin.Y
otherwise > change attribute > self.Position.X to game.Start X;
change attribute > self.Position.Y to game.Start Y.

Is that right?
Thanks

The StartX and StartY go in the Game Over actor. I threw a quick demo together for you to check out. Hope that helps!

allc1865

That's a good demo, thanks. But I think my problem is the spawn actor in my player actor. I have when my health bar is 0, spawn actor gameOver in front of actor relative to actor.
I think that's why my gameOver image shows up wherever my actor is...

-Timo-

you also want to put the behavior change self.rotation to 0 inside the game over actor

allc1865

Okay, that works. Thanks, @timolapre1998. I don't want to be difficult, but it's still not in the center when my player dies.