Company Claims Drag and Drop Game Building Software Most Advanced on the Market.

motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429
edited April 2014 in Miscellaneous

I am not at all interested in this software. I just wanted to see what you all thought of it. It seems similar to GameSalad but highly limited in comparison in how it functions. It laughably claims to be the most advanced drag and drop game builder at a real value of $8,000!!!! LMAO

http://www.gamestudioelite.com/live/

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  • bjandthekatzbjandthekatz Orlando, FlMember Posts: 1,375

    It doesn't look as advanced as GameSalad. The only better part I can see would be the raw code export.

  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited April 2014

    I guess people with mental development issues have enough of a hard time without their condition being used pejoratively, no big deal, I'm not some over the top politically correct sort of person, but I imagine if you did have mental development issues - and used the forum - (or are a forum user with child who has mental development issues) it's probably a little depressing to read these kinds of titles. Who knows maybe I'm being offended on someone else's behalf and they might tell me to shut up and stop treating them like they are made from glass ? :p

    Game Studio looks ok to me, but it's really hard to tell, you would really need to invest a few weeks getting up to speed on it to know whether it's actually better or worse than any other SDK, and yeah I agree that throwing in a load of stock images (images you'll probably see time and time again in other games made with the software) and a training course doesn't add up to $109,780 !!

  • colandercolander Member Posts: 1,610

    The simpler software is to use the more restricted it becomes. Look at what you can do in Apples SDK compared to GS and this one you would be reduced to a narrower range of abilities/features you could use to create your games.

    Another thing to consider if they go broke or cease trading for whatever reason at $8,000 it would be painful.

  • BBEnkBBEnk Member Posts: 1,764

    Actually the course is $9,997, $8000 is just week ones value.

  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited April 2014

    @colander said:
    The simpler software is to use the more restricted it becomes. Look at what you can do in Apples SDK compared to GS and this one you would be reduced to a narrower range of abilities/features you could use to create your games.

    Another thing to consider if they go broke or cease trading for whatever reason at $8,000 it would be painful.

    They actually value the course at $109,780 (it's 8 weeks long, $8,000 is just for week one), but that's not how much they are charging, the course is a mere $9,997 :) !!!

    Week 7 ('Social Puzzle Code') is apparently worth $32,000 !!! Most SDKs give their training and manuals away for free.

    P.S. Anyone want to do a 1 week course on Flappy Birds, I only charge $28,000 per person, per week.

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @BBEnk said:
    Actually the course is $9,997, $8000 is just week ones value.

    Yup, I was just referring to the value they said it was worth. I mean, you could get like 16 years of GameSalad license for that alone!

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @Socks said:
    I guess people with mental development issues have enough of a hard time without their condition being used pejoratively, no big deal, I'm not some over the top politically correct sort of person, but I imagine if you did have mental development issues - and used the forum - (or are a forum user with child who has mental development issues) it's probably a little depressing to read these kinds of titles. Who knows maybe I'm being offended on someone else's behalf and they might tell me to shut up and stop treating them like they are made from glass ? :p

    Game Studio looks ok to me, but it's really hard to tell, you would really need to invest a few weeks getting up to speed on it to know whether it's actually better or worse than any other SDK, and yeah I agree that throwing in a load of stock images (images you'll probably see time and time again in other games made with the software) and a training course doesn't add up to $109,780 !!

    You're right it was a poor choice of words. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm sure I wouldn't have thought to use those if I knew someone with a mental disability. In any case, before I knew about GameSalad I actually bought this company's earlier version of this software last year. To call it a piece of junk would be too kind. It was 1K and thankfully they gave me my money back.

  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822

    @dreichelt said:
    Yup, I was just referring to the value they said it was worth. I mean, you could get like 16 years of GameSalad license for that alone!

    It's actually over 33 years !!

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @colander said:
    The simpler software is to use the more restricted it becomes. Look at what you can do in Apples SDK compared to GS and this one you would be reduced to a narrower range of abilities/features you could use to create your games.

    Another thing to consider if they go broke or cease trading for whatever reason at $8,000 it would be painful.

    I'm pretty sure it's severely limited. As I stated above, last year I had purchased a much simpler and similar piece of software called Project Zero. I was shocked at how much it couldn't do. If you took around 95% of what GameSalad can do away, then you will have Project Zero.

  • HopscotchHopscotch Member, PRO Posts: 2,782

    @Socks said:
    It's actually over 33 years !!

    Cool, version 0.11 should be out by then! ...damn, these jokes don't work anymore -.-

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @colander said:
    dreichelt I think you can still edit your title if you want to.

    Good idea!

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @Socks said:
    It's actually over 33 years !!

    Ok great now I'm doing calculations. $299 per year compared to software that's valued at 8K. 299 x 27 = 8073. Man I was still way off. That's what I get for doing math in my head I guess.

  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822

    @dreichelt said:
    You're right it was a poor choice of words. Sorry if I offended anyone.

    No need to apologise at all, I know 'retarded' is nearly always used with zero reference to people with developmental issues - by that I mean it's just become shorthand for 'stupid' with references to its origin pretty much lost. I just imagined a forum user kid or parent of a kid with retardation might get pissed off at this kind of thing. But who knows maybe they'd be more offended at me, seeing me as patronising them, trying to protect them from something they don't much care about.

    @dreichelt said:
    In any case, before I knew about GameSalad I actually bought this company's earlier version of this software last year. To call it a piece of junk would be too kind. It was 1K and thankfully they gave me my money back.

    Any software that needs $10,000 (ok, $3 short of $10,000) worth of training to get the best out of it is something I'd avoid !!!

    What was the main issue with it when you used it ?

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429
    edited April 2014

    @Socks‌ Hmm well for example there are no real physics behaviors. Well there are no behaviors in general lol. You just have a character that has a shooting behavior and nothing more. You could only have a character that moved if you touched the screen and then dragged the character. The character can't have more than a few frames of animation or the software would crash. Also, you couldn't have many obstacles or it would crash. You could have no variety of weapons or damage to obstacles or damage from obstacles. In other words you couldn't make the simplest of 2D games...Also the screen just scrolls automatically. The software could only create games that 6 year olds would enjoy to be honest.

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  • SocksSocks London, UK.Member Posts: 12,822
    edited April 2014

    @dreichelt said:
    Socks‌ Hmm well for example there are no real physics behaviors. Well there are no behaviors in general lol. You just have a character that has a shooting behavior and nothing more. You could only have a character that moved if you touched the screen and then dragged the character. The character can't have more than a few frames of animation or the software would crash. Also, you couldn't have many obstacles or it would crash. You could have no variety of weapons or damage to obstacles or damage from obstacles. In other words you couldn't make the simplest of 2D games...Also the screen just scrolls automatically.

    Lol ! Sounds so bad it's actually funny !! :) Makes me think we take GameSalad for granted sometimes, anyhow can't stop and chat I've got a bank to rob, I just need the $9,997 for the course.

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    @Socks said:
    Lol ! Sounds so bad it's actually funny !! :) Makes me think we take GameSalad for granted sometimes, anyhow can't stop and chat I've got a bank to rob, I just need the $9,997 for the course.

    Trust me man, I do not take GameSalad for granted after going through that experience haha!!! But yeah, I'll have the getaway car ready out front so just jump in when you got the bags of cash.

  • wpatenwpaten Member, PRO Posts: 281

    Yah this guy is Trey Smith. He's the perfect "Hype" Guy. He literally just came out with this software less than a year ago. That course is what he is most interested in selling. Finding as many people as possible to pay that ridiculous fee. He makes sure to only make it available for "limited" times too, to try and drive people to make that impulse decision to pay for it.

    "Stupid" money. :-)

  • lycettebroslycettebros Member, PRO Posts: 1,598
  • GameLabs222GameLabs222 Member Posts: 197

    I feel as though someone who has the money to invest in something that expensive, who is also involved in app creation is well aware that the software is essentially a scam at that price. Or is uninterested because they made the money they can purchase it with by making a successful app.

    I just don't see anyone buying that. But you know what they say...

  • Thunder_ChildThunder_Child Member Posts: 2,343

    Hahah. If I had that kind of money I wouldnt even be making games.

  • GameLabs222GameLabs222 Member Posts: 197

    Exactly! Or you made the money from your successful game already.

  • motorcycle boymotorcycle boy Member Posts: 429

    Haha yeah anyone who knows better would not pay that money. All they are going to do is tell you common knowledge at their training camp. Things you can learn for free by asking. If I had 10K that would all go into my own apps all made with GameSalad for $150 thanks to my student discount! Hmmm...$150 or 10K....

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