GS for Android

JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
Is GS looking into supporting Android. The Android market is growing faster and faster. Andoird has out sold the iPhone this last quarter. It's also getting more press than before.

I've downloaded Shiva and started playing with it, but i would really like something closer to GS. I would like to know if Android is even being considered, and if so when.

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  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    +1 :)
  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    I worry about Steve Jobs' comments about cross platform support in his "thoughts on flash" memo. If GS goes cross-platform we may go the way of flash...
  • JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
    If GS has passed Apples requirements then supporting Android should not be an issue. I’m just wanting to know from GS if Android is something they are looking at in the near future. If GS has no plans for Android, then I’m going to learn to use Shiva so I can put out more Android games.

    I don’t want to get into any kind of debate on iPhone vs Androd, or why GS should or should not support Android. Just a simple yes or no question
  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    James, this is a forum, man. I didn't mean this to be some sort of argument. When people post here most of us assume it is to start a conversation. I hope you get your yes or no answer (I'm with you - a yes answer would be nice!), but Gendai rarely gives yes or no answers to these types of questions.

    Best of luck!
  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    Would be nice to hear a comment either way on this.... Yoda.... Pollo? :)

    Not that we need to hear a release date b/c we know better, but to know if it's planned or in the works would be nice to help other devs so they know which direction to go :)
  • JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
    scitunes

    Sorry, I did not mean to come across that way. Your also right that the forum is for conversation. I was just wanting to get my point across that an answer from GS would be nice. Once again sorry for my attitude.
  • IntelligentDesignerIntelligentDesigner Member Posts: 517
    Simple solution.

    GameSalad remains targeted at the Apple specific features of the iDevice world.

    Gendai can create another dev platform called "DroidSalad" that caters to the specifics of that market.

    That way an iDevice competitor never displays a "Made with GameSalad" Splash.
  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    @ James - no problem. It would be nice for us paying customers to get more straight answers, but I can understand why Gendai doesn't want to make promises in case they are unable to deliver for whatever reason.

    droidsalad. interesting idea.
  • AfterBurnettAfterBurnett Member Posts: 3,474
    I'm with ID - make a separate app that does the same thing for Android... keep GS safe. On the other hand, if Apple DOES ban GS (which is very likely, despite Gendai's bullshit "don't worry, be happy" approach), then it would be good to be able to actually still use GameSalad for something rather than just a reminder of more crushed dreams. But yeah, I'm keen for Android either way... Apple aren't doing themselves any favours at the mo... Remember the Commodore 64, Apple?
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    scitunes said:
    droidsalad. interesting idea.

    I prefer 'Salad droid'.

    Or Saladroid :D

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  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    SaladDroid is cool :) I like DroidSalad too....

    Basically I like the idea of the prospect of being able to publish to the Droid...

    Would be nice if Gamesalad could give us some answers.

    We don't need release dates, or prospective times, we just want to know if that is a direction they're headed towards trying or not.

    Yoda....? Ricolla?
  • JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
    I've had a GPhone since they first came out. My first app was one of the first 50 apps made for the GPhone. I've made a total of 12 apps for the Android market. I've been average about $500 a month for the last 18 months.

    My apps for Android are very simple apps. If I had GS for droid I would be making a killing. I've not made a new app in nine months for Android, because I've made 12 apps for the iPhone/iPad. Five of my iPhone apps was made with GS, and the other seven with xCode. I've enjoyed using GS, but I make more money still on the Android market.

    All my apps for Android was made with Java. This is why I'm looking at Shiva, but Shiva is not as easy as GS. I've said in other forums here that I think Android will be the dominate phone OS.

    So if anyone at GS could answer the question...that would be great.
  • IntelligentDesignerIntelligentDesigner Member Posts: 517
    If Apple puts the "Kibosh" on GameSalad, the product will become vestigial. I certainly will not waste any time on it making iDevice apps that cannot be marketed except to jail-broken iDevices. The app store is what makes GameSalad attractive, since it is the easy way in. Why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? Focus on being the absolute best Apple Partner, do not dilute the potion with competitive hardware bases.

    Now if Apple says "no more" to Gendai, then and only then DroidSalad becomes viable. IF Droid is still on the market. Who remembers Beta? It was better than VHS but became relegated to the trash bin of "good-ish" ideas...

    Apple has the market cornered now, folks, and it's going to be a hard battle to get anything ahead at this late date. Sure "they" sold Droids last month, they also spent MEGA$$$ on TV and paper media Blitzing. Apple likely spent less than a tenth. Don't forget that there are competitors in the Driod world, and they are scrabbling for a piece of a piece of Apple pie...

    Apple is in it to win it, and GameSalad is a good tool, and if the devs concentrate on improving it and adding features to match the HW capabilities, they'll become an esteemed partner.

    I just had an app rejected because it was not wi-fi capable, and could not connect to social media. Now I have to rebuild it in XCode. It will probably take me about three times as long, but it is important to utilize the HW and OS features of the targeted devices.

    GS, if you are listening, concentrate on adding the right features to GS, and making it the goto tool for Apple iDevice development.
  • AfterBurnettAfterBurnett Member Posts: 3,474
    Uh oh... do our games need to be wi-fi capable or was it just because yours was a certain type of app?

    *opens dictionary to look up vestigial*
  • IntelligentDesignerIntelligentDesigner Member Posts: 517
    Nope, wi-fi is only needed in the niche I was in. My other apps that are GS powered are all in. (so far)
  • JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
    Still waiting on someone at GS to respond.
  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    I sent an email out to them with the link to this thread, so hopefully we'll hear something soon :)
  • lexanderlexander Inactive, Chef Emeritus Posts: 6
    James,

    We have no plans to support Android at this time. We prefer to first focus on helping our customers create the best iPhone OS experience for their players as possible. This focus will help us move on iPhone and iPad features much faster, and the iPhoneOS still commands the vast majority in App Sales.

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-for-994-of-mobile-app-sales-in-2009.ars

    We hope that provides a clear answer to your concerns.

    Best regards,
    Michael
    CEO
    Gendai Games
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    lexander said:
    We have no plans to support Android at this time.
    Disappointing, but not shocking.

    This does create a market for a new service... GameSalad to Android conversions. A possible approach would be GameSalad to Flash, and then convert the flash file to Android with the new version of Adobe Air.

    This is not the route I wanted to go. But with a clear answer, I can start making other plans.

    ...and I think this might have been the first time I've seen the CEO post. It seems that more people work at Gendai Games than I thought.
  • IntelligentDesignerIntelligentDesigner Member Posts: 517
    This is really good news! I am relieved to hear that the emphasis is on supporting Apple OS features first. There are a good many challenges therein, and Gendai is quite astute in their direction, I believe that this will cement the relationship with Apple.

    What reason did Jobs cite for closing the Adobe path? "They are lazy and did not work at improving their product to be the best tools for Apple." This tells you what Apple's thinking is - I still believe it is in Apple's best interest to have Gendai as a partner, because it establishes their willingness to not be completely closed. Having good partners is the best defense against Adobe's silly lawsuit.

    Bravo to "Lexandr(Michael)" and I sincerely hope to see more Apple features embedded into GameSalad soon... Things like Wifi capabilities, iAd, GameCenter, in-App Purchases, and whatever else Apple supports -- if GameSalad supports these too, we are looking at "the beginning of a beautiful relationship"...
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Can we have Pause back now, please?

    :D

    QS

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  • JamesBoucherJamesBoucher Member Posts: 433
    Thank you very much. I will continue to use GS for my iPhone games, but I will look at other products for my Android games. Once again thanks for your answer.
  • Billyd1Billyd1 Member Posts: 133
    Would love to have my apps on the Android aswell, this is defiantly a feature GS should add. It would also attract alot more people to the site.

    Would be a great idea!!
  • chosenonestudioschosenonestudios Member Posts: 1,714
    Billyd1 said:
    Would love to have my apps on the Android aswell, this is defiantly a feature GS should add. It would also attract alot more people to the site.

    Would be a great idea!!

    If you just read anything in this thread you'd know why / they can't / won't do that...

    If your wondering why I said this, please, reread the thread :D

    Cheers!

    Cool, never seen the CEO post before, Hello Michael!
  • a7medo778a7medo778 Member, PRO Posts: 119
    +1
  • magic101himagic101hi Member Posts: 713
    I believe there is a general suggestion that you should not post on topics more that 1 month old :D

    -Josh
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