Complaining ain't gonnna help

JamesZeppelin

I really don't care how many shitty apps come out and I really don't care what other people do either.

Shitty apps sink right into the bottom anyways. They don't get in the way. What gets in the way are the tons of great apps that have thousands of hours of development.

At the risk of sounding negative am I one of the only ones who can admit most my stuff doesn't sell because it isn't that great and I don't market it?

Not because of what someone else is doing.

Sure there are some great GS games but let's be honest with ourselves. You can't expect to make a tap to make the thing disappear game in 3 days, slap it up there and then whine when it doesn't sell.

There are tons of simple games some good some bad and a lot rip offs. IE veggie samurai > fruit ninja

Now.... I know people get worked up when a simple knock off game sells but let's face it these guys aren't making as much money as you think. Let's use FN for example again. I can't go to a website without seeing an add for it. I bet that guy has to sell at least a thousand a day before he sees profit.

I think you need a great game or at least an ok game with some hard work, sacrifice and marketing to be successful

Complaining about duck hunt knockoffs tainting the GS name and ruining your sales won't help at all..... Not one bit.

Also let me officially say not having iads isn't ruining your income either.
I've now seen over 10k in add requests and made 6 bucks.

BOTTOMLINE

I think people really need to focus on success and researching how to succeed and worry a little less about the person next to them is doing.

AfterBurnett

I think they should just make good games. Hopefully the success will follow

AfterBurnett

*cancels plans to make "doodle block remover" *

HAHAHAHAHA!

butterbean

@ James: I wholeheartedly agree with you, very well said.

People have a right to be upset when they see knock offs like Duck hunt selling well, especially when it's an injustice to Gamesalad, but a line should be drawn as to when too much complaining is just... too much.

Focus on making your games 1,000% better, and setting the bar higher each time you make a new app.

Photics

Why can't I do both?
Oh yeah, I have to finish my book!

So, I'll write this quickly...

Is a complaint about complaining really productive? This thread doesn't change my opinion. I think there's a legitimate grip about the cost of a "Pro" license. Not only would my games probably be more successful, A lot of people here think that Gendai Games would generate more revenue if they priced their product more intelligently. $1999 is a lot of money at once.

I'm working hard, making plans, trying to do better. I might even spend $1999 on a pro license. Yet, I think the community is right to rant about Pro. It's just too expensive.

JamesZeppelin

Yeah, I guess my main point was missed. Im cool with complaining. I do it too...
lol as y ou pointed out that post was a complaint of sorts.

I am specifically referring how much effort some folks put into trying to find an excuse for why they are having bad luck in the app store rather than examining their own efforts or just accepting some of it is just luck.

I think when someone is frustrated its easy to point the finger.

Be upset about duck hunt because ripping something off is a poser move, not because it is directly effecting sales.

Be upset that 2k for pro is lame just because it's lame. Not because Gendai is blocking your only possible chance to make an untold fortune in the app store.

Take Sheep for example. His duck hunt hating doesn't bother me at all. He's pissed about duck hunt but i think he along with many others are big boy enough to know they are responsible for their own sales.

All im saying is there is money to be had and working hard is the only way to have a small chance at getting some of it.

Photics

JamesZeppelin said:
All im saying is there is money to be had and working hard is the only way to have a small chance at getting some of it.

I've been working hard, but it feels like it's been raining the whole way. (There was a little bit of a sun-shower when Commove was featured.) I keep at it though, because you can make your own luck with hard work.

I agree with the general theme. Hard work is how you can make your own success. Yet, then I see stories like Jungle Bug. It shows that the system is not always fair. (Ha, although, a buyout offer of $1250 is a lot more than I've seen doing this.)

peachpellen

I think maybe it depends why a person complains about something.

If it were as simple as someone making more money from a rip off than a real developer is making with their own apps, then I'm pretty "eh" about it. I understand it, but that isn't what bothers me.

When someone likes to gloat about making money from ripping off another person's work though, that bothers me.

That said, when they eventually get screwed it IS very, very satisfying - so perhaps it's worth it in the end :P

Still, I'm with the Sheep. ^-^;

That said - I DO think there are more important things to complain about at present; like getting the App Loader working. >.<'

quantumsheep

JamesZeppelin said:
Take Sheep for example. His duck hunt hating doesn't bother me at all. He's pissed about duck hunt but i think he along with many others are big boy enough to know they are responsible for their own sales.

I'm unbearably wonderful again. And up until this quote, I thought your rage was directed against me, personally!

But I'm glad you see it for what it is, mate!

I wrote a long post, but I've deleted it now. It's like pissing into the wind sometimes, eh?

QS

vegasmike1

I coach a semi pro football team, when players get in a fight, then I tell them, you have that much energy left why did you not put that much effort into the game itself, knock the other guy down, dont bring anything off the field. Point, more effort in making games means you dont have too much time to complain about anything. Games are the number one hardest thing to do, period, you are not doing anything productive you are wasting time, hell if you buy a calculator app it has some utility value, not games. And once you win, sometimes you are done, GS needs to improve its company, and we all have to do a better job of kicking ass with great games. But if you think there is a lot of hollering or complaining here, go to the apple developer forum, forget it. Not worth the time, worse than playing a game. We should all put together an NDA, sign it so we can help each other. Not going to happen, but there is some mass here, just a bit fractured.

JamesZeppelin

vegasmike1 said:
I coach a semi pro football team.

First that is pretty cool.
Second that statement sitting next to your profile picture is even better