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Rights to public material

The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,906Member
Just food for thought, when you use YouTube and/or any other public service and list your content as public you are bound by their terms of service and by proxy limit your legal protections for your content. The only way to truly protect ones content is to host your content on your own site. Youtubes terms of service allows anyone, as long as they use their embed code, to post and use any content listed as public in their service. If one relies on their content to make a living then they should structure their business as such. Yes this cost money to do but that is the price of having a business. YouTube' s policy is as such,

For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your Content. However, by submitting Content to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the Content in connection with the Service and YouTube's (and its successors' and affiliates') business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the Service a non-exclusive license to access your Content through the Service, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such Content as permitted through the functionality of the Service and under these Terms of Service. The above licenses granted by you in video Content you submit to the Service terminate within a commercially reasonable time after you remove or delete your videos from the Service. You understand and agree, however, that YouTube may retain, but not display, distribute, or perform, server copies of your videos that have been removed or deleted. The above licenses granted by you in user comments you submit are perpetual and irrevocable.

This a reminder that not all people may deal reasonably with you and may chose to exersize their rights. Just remember that in business we must keep our perspective or we may get a hard lesson that we are a big fish in a small pond. Because if you want to make it one day to swim in the ocean the sharks will show no mercy and not loose a nights sleep over tearing you apart.


  • GhostShipAppsGhostShipApps Posts: 81Member
    Good posting, I think the final goal of any site like YouTube or Flickr or Facebook is to get the most people they can working for free, creating their content with their own means and uploading that to their sites to add value for their companies. A little bit ago I read an article where they said Facebook is the biggest image archive in the world, all that belong to....
  • MotherHooseMotherHoose Posts: 2,456Member
    edited January 2012
    alas, in joining YouTube … while you continue to own the copyright on the content of your videos, you have accepted a TOS that in effect assigns all rights of distribution/viewing of your public videos to YouTube and its users.

    as a member, you can opt to have the Embed function disabled … sites embedding or linking to your video will show the posterFrame … but visitors will have to click the YouTube icon to open there and view.

    ultimately, no one can force anyone to cease embedding YouTube videos … except YouTube.

    I, personally make all my videos Private … can't be embedded without a coded link.
    if I didn't do that, I would report to YouTube the many,many Video sites that could embed my vids in Flash advertisements or earn advertising profits from simply embedding my vids … don't think I would object to a non-commercial site playing my vids.

    I don't criticize YouTube's TOS … YouTube's purpose is to store and play/stream videos for public viewing … and does it well!
    Problem is members often think of it as a free online storage site for videoFiles… for their personal use. (Me?)

    so very, very sad to see your site taken down @Fry

  • The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,906Member
    edited January 2012
    Thank you MH. It sadden me to have to do it as it only hurt the community not me personally. I used to be a hard nosed business person but those days are behind me and I wasn't interesting in being a target for every person who feels I was infringing on their little fiefdom. In my younger days I would have stood by my rights and told them to go $&@? Themselves and spend the money to protect their interests. In business we called this an exercise in spending money. If you pissed me off I'd get you back by making you spend money you didn't want to spend. So in this case I could have forced people to abandon their search engine links and made it harder to market their stuff and made their life a lot more difficult. What they missed is that the site overall would help them by concentrating the market by organizing the chaos. I want to make it clear that it wasn't Tshirt I had a problem with but others who took issue because they were more concerned with protecting their little bottom line and as far as I'm concerned are hypocrites when they say they do things for the community, that's BS. What they are concerned with is what they can fleece off of others while pretending to care. Now they have to take the PR hit and they look like mean aholes and don't even realize it. Not very bright if you ask me.
  • MotherHooseMotherHoose Posts: 2,456Member
    edited January 2012
    aha … anyone who spent $$$ trying to prevent the embedding of a YouTube video, would violate their TOS! :)

    never,never would think that Tshirt would cause anyone a problem … he is open, honest, warm, and caring!
    and his videos on have a big plus … most have a download of the GSproject file!

    alas, if people do not make their how-to videos freely available … others may make newer videos that cover the same topics …
    and that are freely available.

    @};- MH
  • The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,906Member
    Many people have Expressed their appreciation of the site and since I have already reached a gentleman's compromise with Tshirt. I'm going to redo the gshelper links today and put the site back up. What the hell I've got one more fight left in
  • MotherHooseMotherHoose Posts: 2,456Member
    Go for it!

    know the users will benefit greatly … and the creator's of the video will get more recognition because their videos will be easy to find and much appreciated!

    even experienced programmers need to refresh their memory or learn new skills!

    Thanx ever so for reconsidering … @Fry

    @};- MH
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