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Mac Creator 1.23.1 is now available

QASaladQASalad Posts: 142Key Master, Head Chef, Member, PRO GameSalad Employee
edited October 2015 in GameSalad Kitchen

Fixes:

  • Going forward, Web Publishing and the iOS and Android Viewers will now use the engine version instead of the Creator version when determining its compatibility with Creator. Due to this change, the 2nd number in our versioning scheme will represent the current version of the engine (and why this build is 1.23.1 instead of 1.0.1).

  • Fixed Android Viewer not sending game stats to Creator

  • In OS X 10.11, Creator will now Maximize instead of going Full Screen when clicking the green "stoplight" button on the upper left corner of the window

  • Removed "beta" from the Creator .dmg and iOS Viewer .zip

  • Further crash fixes and improvements

Get The Build: Here

Previous Release Thread for 1.0.0: http://forums.gamesalad.com/discussion/89527/mac-creator-1-0-0-is-available#latest

Previous Mac Release Notes: https://gamesalad.com/download/releaseNotes/creator

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  • GameAlchemistGameAlchemist Posts: 106Member

    What's the difference between engine version and creator version? Thanks.

  • IceboxIcebox Posts: 1,483Member

    In OS X 10.11, Creator will now Maximize instead of going Full Screen when clicking the green "stoplight" button on the upper left corner of the window

    Excellent , this was a bit annoying :D

  • ArmellineArmelline Posts: 4,753Member, PRO
    edited October 2015

    @GameAlchemist said:
    What's the difference between engine version and creator version? Thanks.

    This means (I presume) that you don't need to install a new Viewer on your iPhone every time a new version of Creator is released. The Creator might have changes but the engine not. You'll still have to install a new Viewer when the engine version changes, but not the Creator.

    The Creator is the app you make your games in, the engine is what actually powers the games and lets you run them. So they don't necessarily get updated at the same time.

    This is very appreciated news, if I've understood it correctly!

  • PhilipCCPhilipCC Encounter Bay, South AustraliaPosts: 1,390Member
    edited October 2015

    @QA-Salad
    I presume the third number in the sequence 1.23.1 still means the version increment for Creator?

    PS : Thanks for the update.

  • QASaladQASalad Posts: 142Key Master, Head Chef, Member, PRO GameSalad Employee

    @PhilipCC said:
    QA-Salad
    I presume the third number in the sequence 1.23.1 still means the version increment for Creator?

    PS : Thanks for the update.

    Yup!

  • izamizam Posts: 484Member, PRO

    Does this version solve the slow frame rate issue reported by @kirafu and others?

  • supafly129supafly129 Posts: 452Member, PRO

    @NimbleBug said:
    Please update on this

    Ditto, please please please provide an update on the FPS issues and loading issues!

  • The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,913Member
    edited October 2015

    @supafly129 said:
    Ditto, please please please provide an update on the FPS issues and loading issues!

    Just an FYI as to frame rates using the viewer. Just yesterday while doing some tests on an app, I noticed a nigh difference between the frame rate registered by creator while using the viewer and Xcode instruments. While the viewer showed my app running at 49-50. During an ad hoc test of the same app instruments showed it at 58-60. I think the creator data is inaccurate.

  • supafly129supafly129 Posts: 452Member, PRO

    @Lost_Oasis_Games said:
    Just an FYI as to frame rates using the viewer. Just yesterday while doing some tests on an app, I noticed a nigh difference between the frame rate registered by creator while using the viewer and Xcode instruments. While the viewer showed my app running at 49-50 during an ad hoc test of the same app instruments showed it at 58-60. I think the creator data is inaccurate.

    Thanks @Lost_Oasis_Games ! In all honesty I'm still using one of the earlier 0.13 creator versions so I myself haven't experienced the said FPS dips yet (only increased loading times during ad hoc test). But from what @kirafu and others have mentioned multiple times I figured something strange was going on with the latest creator builds. Not sure if they were referring to ad hoc or not though

  • The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,913Member

    Well the only thing that matters is how an ad hoc runs. This is always the true test. Which is why when I saw those frame rates in viewer I wanted a second opinion..lol I went and pushed out an ad hoc and booted up Xcode. I don't understand the load time issues either. I am working on some animation heavy apps right now. The last scene I did has 197, 720x568 images animated. I experienced nominal load times and have an excellent frame rate. The app is currently 200mb and I preload everything and still have nominal load times. I've never been a big fan of one scene games. This type of thing bypasses the garbage system that executes when a scene change happens.

  • IceboxIcebox Posts: 1,483Member

    When adding or deleting images from GS creator it automatically saves , even if i exit the project without saving , its been this way ever since I used GS , is it possible to change that ? I deleted an image that i was using by mistake , so i exit GS without saving hoping that when i come back it would be there , but it wasnt there.Even if I add an image to the project , and exit without saving , when I come back the image is there. This might cause an issue if you didnt know about it , i remember once i wanted to publish for html5 and test my game so i wanted to reduce the file size , i deleted all the images that i didnt require at that moment , i test and then i exit without saving , to continue my project later on , when i opened my project again the images were all deleted, I had to re import everything back.

  • GameAlchemistGameAlchemist Posts: 106Member

    @Armelline @GeorgeGS Ok Thanks.

  • pixiopixio Posts: 8Member, PRO
    edited October 2015

    Really liking the latest iteration! And.... Wait for it (unrelated) I SOLVED THE UNIVERSAL BINARIES PROBLEM I WAS HAVING!!!!! Props to Lovejoy for the Overscan solution!

  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 284Member
    edited October 2015

    Found a bug in 1.23.1. No idea if this is new or already was there in 1.0.0.

    http://bugs.gamesalad.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1449
    (with demo file)

    Values smaller than 0.1 are treated as if they were 0. One actor in the demo has the rule if 0.09 = 0 -> display text "bugged" and it does exactly that.

    Edit:
    I just realized that this doesn't only happen with values below 0.1.
    For example 1.18 is treated as if it was 1.1.

  • BlackCloakGSBlackCloakGS Posts: 2,250Key Master, Head Chef, Member, PRO GameSalad Employee

    @Hoodloc this is not a bug please see comments on the bug

  • SocksSocks London, UK.Posts: 12,822Member

    @Icebox1910 said:
    When adding or deleting images from GS creator it automatically saves , even if i exit the project without saving , its been this way ever since I used GS , is it possible to change that ?

    It doesn't actually save the project, it simply writes the image data to the file in real time as images are added or deleted, the rest of the project on your disk remains as it is until you save.

    @Icebox1910 said:
    This might cause an issue if you didnt know about it.

    Yep, it can catch you out if you don't know how GS works in this regard, especially as pretty much every other application out there only modifies your file on disk when saving - the way around this, if you are about to do some deleting or adding of images, is to save your file (XX0037), then Save As (XX0038) and proceed with your image wrangling, if something screws up (and adding and deleting assets, images and audio can be very temperamental in GameSalad) you just need to dump XX0038 and go back to XX0037.

  • IceboxIcebox Posts: 1,483Member

    @Socks Yes , this is what I usually do now

  • GameAlchemistGameAlchemist Posts: 106Member

    GameSalad has crashed around 3-4 times today for me. And it only occurred when I was previewing the game. I didn't lose any progress since I save a lot but still, it gets a little buggy when working. And also, sometimes whenever I preview my game, the preview is a black screen unless I refresh.

  • KevinCrossKevinCross London, UKPosts: 1,893Member

    @GameAlchemist said:
    And also, sometimes whenever I preview my game, the preview is a black screen unless I refresh.

    I get this every single time.

  • The_Gamesalad_GuruThe_Gamesalad_Guru Posts: 9,913Member

    I've been using the lasted two build for hours straight and no crashes. A few minor hiccups during preview but other than that all is well.

  • supafly129supafly129 Posts: 452Member, PRO
    edited October 2015

    @Hoodloc said:
    Last thing I remember reading was that there's a lot of bug fixing going on but I've read that far to often now and to be honest things feel like they aren't progressing or even regressing. I won't waste time listing all things wrong right now, I've done that, others have done that. But for some reason there's absolutely no feedback at all.

    @Armelline said:
    I know you guys are working your asses off, but it feels like nothing is being done. Of course this isn't the case, but with complete radio silence recently, we don't know what is.

    I share the same frustration--just seems awfully quiet lately. I optimistically want to assume that great updates are in progress and I know bug fixes aren't as easy as they may seem, but I think even a simple response assuring everyone that these things are being investigated would help wash away some of the concerns that have been repeatedly expressed, particularly with ad hoc/creator performance.

  • PhilipCCPhilipCC Encounter Bay, South AustraliaPosts: 1,390Member

    @BlackCloakGS @GeorgeGS and @QASalad et al.

    I don't think I have complained before, but now I join the chorus with @Armelline , @Hoodloc and @supafly129 .

    Every new release I get excited :D and think that now that I have a stable build I can knock out a few updates and submit new projects that have been pending. But before I even attempt to do so, the Forum is awash with bug reports, crashes and complaints. :( So I hold off and go back to website, photography or video work.

    As my colleagues above say, it helps us keep the faith with regular reports of what's going on.

    It's 20.00 Friday night in Texas now, so guess we won't hear anything until Monday?

  • GnarlyGnarly canadaPosts: 840Member

    @PhilipCC said:
    BlackCloakGS GeorgeGS and QASalad et al.

    I don't think I have complained before, but now I join the chorus with Armelline , Hoodloc and supafly129 .

    Every new release I get excited :D and think that now that I have a stable build I can knock out a few updates and submit new projects that have been pending. But before I even attempt to do so, the Forum is awash with bug reports, crashes and complaints. :( So I hold off and go back to website, photography or video work.

    As my colleagues above say, it helps us keep the faith with regular reports of what's going on.

    It's 20.00 Friday night in Texas now, so guess we won't hear anything until Monday?

    I'm sure they are going through creator code
    With 6,972,123 lines of code spread over 41,702 files. That’s equivalent to a book with 116,202 pages.

    I hope they have a great weekend and hit the code hard on Monday.

  • BlackCloakGSBlackCloakGS Posts: 2,250Key Master, Head Chef, Member, PRO GameSalad Employee
    edited October 2015

    and I think that only for windows creator ;)

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