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Help with IAP naming on itunes

I was going to start a rant at just how backward itunes/connect are but I will save that for another day - on to my issue

I created a new app on itunes but I had to start again, so created a new profile etc - figured out the new BS .ipa. However, under my old app, I created an IAP called 'item' and a leaderboard.

I tried to use the same IDs for the newer version(totally new app name) but it kept saying 'id is in use' and I removed the links, deleted both the IAP and leaderboard but yet it keeps throwing up this error. Is apple really this anal?

Or is there a way I can use the same ID without having to go back to my app and actually renaming everything in there?

thanks

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