Were is an UPDATE?!

GamexcbGamexcb Member Posts: 179
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
The last update to GS was on July 23! Its now September 15th! I am not angry, all I am saying is that about 54 days is enough time to release even small update! With time like this to work on an update I have high expectations.
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  • AfterBurnettAfterBurnett Member Posts: 3,474
    Gamexcb said:
    The last update to GS was on July 23! Its now September 15th! I am not angry, all I am saying is that about 54 days is enough time to release even small update! With time like this to work on an update I have high expectations.

    Gendai have stated that the next update is a pretty massive one... we should expect huge performance increases etc. I don't mind if they take a little longer to get it right ;-)
  • 777ideas.com777ideas.com Member, PRO Posts: 895
    I don't mind either but at least give us a date when the update will be ready.
  • firemaplegamesfiremaplegames Member Posts: 3,211
    They are rebuilding the entire scene graph (the way all the memory and actors are handled in the engine) They mention massive performance increases, memory leak fixes, and pause functionality.

    Hopefully we'll get it soon!
  • jstrahanjstrahan Member Posts: 498
    if they making so many changes will our games we working on now going to load and work right in the GS Creator
    that what im concerned about
    im putting in a lot of work on this next title
  • synthesissynthesis Member Posts: 1,693
    If the update is what its claiming to be...I can wait for it. Let's go Gendai. Cut those load times and release that RAM. Woo hoo!!!
  • AfterBurnettAfterBurnett Member Posts: 3,474
    jstrahan said:
    if they making so many changes will our games we working on now going to load and work right in the GS Creator
    that what im concerned about
    im putting in a lot of work on this next title

    Same. I've stopped all work on Route 86 until I have the update in my hot little hands.
  • UtopianGamesUtopianGames Member Posts: 5,692
    I imagine all our games will still work? That would be an insane move if they don't.

    Darren.
  • firemaplegamesfiremaplegames Member Posts: 3,211
    It is my understanding that everything SHOULD still work.
    However, updates in the past have been somewhat traumatic!
  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    Minor bugs are acceptable, and almost always occur with updates, but if it renders our games useless, and we can't provide updates, that's not okay
  • aalzankiaalzanki Member Posts: 283
    I think cause they're working on gamecenter.
  • SnippySnippy Member Posts: 19
    I hope the coming update does indeed bring some performance improvements.. :) and I hope it'll be compatible with my current project.. if not, oh well.. back to 0 :)
  • jweaver911jweaver911 Member Posts: 439
    aalzanki said:
    I think cause they're working on gamecenter.

    Though I wish this were the case, they said in their last yellow post that it wasn't coming in the "next" update, but was down the road.

    Yep.. I haven't posted much on here as I have been busy the last month and a half with other projects outside of GS. But that hasn't stopped me from being a LURKER! ;)
  • YodapolloYodapollo Inactive, Chef Emeritus Posts: 447
    Hey, everybody!

    Believe me, we totally understand the frustration. Yes, the time that has passed since our last version would definitely be fine for small update. What's coming is no small update. We're in the crunch right now and trying to get this to you as soon as we can, but most importantly, we're making sure it's done right.

    Thank you for your patience and we think the next update will be well worth it.

    --Yodapollo
  • jweaver911jweaver911 Member Posts: 439
    Sounds like it will be.

    ...How soon is soon? :)

    BTW. Thanks for responding Yoda.
  • jonmulcahyjonmulcahy Member, Sous Chef Posts: 10,408
    Always nice to see a yellow post. Thanks for the update

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  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    Yodapollo said:
    Believe me, we totally understand the frustration. Yes, the time that has passed since our last version would definitely be fine for small update. What's coming is no small update. We're in the crunch right now and trying to get this to you as soon as we can, but most importantly, we're making sure it's done right.

    Thank you for your patience and we think the next update will be well worth it.

    It says a lot, but it also says nothing.

    -- What's in the next update? Why is it such a big update?
    -- Does it have Game Center?!
    -- What is the estimated release date? (Should we launch apps now or wait for the improvements?)

    The greatest yellow post I remember was something like, "I can't say much more than, get your apps ready for 1024x768". This is nothing like that. I think the communication should be better.
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Basseman said:
    I'm feeling like a little kid on christmas eve =)

    Resist the urges and put him back!

    QS ;)

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  • jstrahanjstrahan Member Posts: 498
    Always love a yellow post but I think they should come voluntary not after reading everyone asking what's going on I understand they busy but I think it took about 5 min to come up with that post if u include reading all of them b4 it and if we can't get a road map how about a priority list

    Ps I love what GS does for me and want it to succeed and I can tell u as a fellow business owner communication can make or break a company
  • design219design219 Member Posts: 2,273
    I hope some members are able to go to these meet ups... and report what they learn after a few drinks.
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    design219 said:
    I hope some members are able to go to these meet ups... and report what they learn after a few drinks.

    Reporting... hey... that seems like a good use for my degree in Photojournalism. Perhaps I should bring a camera to the NYC event, but Gendai Games didn't state where the event would be.
  • jstrahanjstrahan Member Posts: 498
    Ps I love what GS does for me and want it to succeed and I can tell u as a fellow business owner communication can make or break a company
  • BeyondtheTechBeyondtheTech Member Posts: 809
    I'm going to have to chime in here and let you know that I've been in this before with Torque 2D and even recently with Corona. I'm a fan of all three engines in their own rights, but when it came to communication, I've ran into similar glitches. I'm just learning it appears to be the norm during their periods of tremendous growing pains, and while that shouldn't excuse Gendai Games or Garage Games or Ansca Mobile, I can tell you that for the most part, the wait was worth it every time.

    I can only imagine that, with Gendai's recent $1M cash infusion and a bunch of investors trying to put their hand on the tongs that mix the "salad," it would seem to be both a blessing and a curse to those on the outside.

    There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hold steady and try to enjoy the ride.
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    BeyondtheTech said:
    There is a light at the end of the tunnel

    I imagine Gendai Games will eventually release something good... will it be good enough?
  • victorkin11victorkin11 Member Posts: 251
    When will we have arrays?
    This is a big limitation, gs can not do some type of game!
  • beefy_clyrobeefy_clyro Member Posts: 5,394
    quantumsheep said:
    Resist the urges and put him back!

    QS ;)

    Too funny
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  • iDeveloperiDeveloper Member Posts: 441
    firemaplegames said:
    They are rebuilding the entire scene graph (the way all the memory and actors are handled in the engine) They mention massive performance increases, memory leak fixes, and pause functionality.

    Hopefully we'll get it soon!

    Actually, the scene graph handles the graphical scene. (The Designer)

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scene_graph

    @Yodapollo:

    Thanks for understanding my and our frustration.
  • BeyondtheTechBeyondtheTech Member Posts: 809
    Photics said:
    ...Perhaps I should bring a camera to the NYC event, but Gendai Games didn't state where the event would be.

    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=10538

    According to this yellow sticky, they will be attending the Comic-Con in NY, but not no one needs to actually attend it as well. We will likely meet nearby at a bar, restaurant, a Starbucks, meeting room, back alley, strip club, underground kumite, back room casino, you name it. Me and my iPhone 4 will be there, I can record the event in HD, too!
  • iDeveloperiDeveloper Member Posts: 441
    BeyondtheTech said:
    http://gamesalad.com/forums/topic.php?id=10538

    According to this yellow sticky, they will be attending the Comic-Con in NY, but not no one needs to actually attend it as well. We will likely meet nearby at a bar, restaurant, a Starbucks, meeting room, back alley, strip club, underground kumite, back room casino, you name it. Me and my iPhone 4 will be there, I can record the event in HD, too!

    How you like your iPhone 4?

    I'm loving mine. The HD recorder is what made me give in. You get a Phone, Digital Camera, HD Video Recorder, a Portable Game Console, a Video/Music player, and a Web Browser all for $199. (Mine = 16GB.)
  • jstrahanjstrahan Member Posts: 498
    Just because all the other companies don't communicate during major updates makes it right I'm just saying it's better business to communicate with ur customers
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    jstrahan said:
    Just because all the other companies don't communicate during major updates makes it right I'm just saying it's better business to communicate with ur customers

    Good communication is critical to their business.

    What's up with Gendai Games?! I try to picture it from their point-of-view. I'll pretend to be Yodapollo, writing a better post...
    Imaginary Yodapollo said:
    Hey gang... here's what's new. Game Salad version 0.9.0 will be available on September 30. It will include basic Game Center support, for leader boards and achievements. Advanced Game Center features are still several months away. Pause is now a new behavior. The new version also sports improvement to loading times and game performance. Oh, and the creator should stop slowing down every 15 minutes.

    Oh, and here's what we're doing with Pro... it's staying $1999 per year, but we've added in-app purchases, webview and some MySQL database support. That should add plenty of value to the subscription. Turns out it was easy. Sorry about that! That's our bad for making you wait so long.

    Oh, and we'll void your subscription if you use a Pro license to circumvent restrictions for Express users. But hey, if you want to start your own publishing company, or make Game Salad games for clients, we're cool with that. Our legal department is busy making changes to the license agreement. It should be live in a few weeks. We're just giving you the heads-up for now.

    One more thing, we'll be at the Apple store in Soho (NYC) next month. It's free admission, so bring the whole family... except the screaming kids.

    Hey, perhaps it's good that they're so secretive. We could guess what they're up to. It's like a fun game.

    So... what if part of my imaginary scenario is true. What if they say they're going to launch GameSalad 0.9 on September 30... but it doesn't make it? What if they're late? Are we going to hate them forever? No, if they keep us posted with delays. Is it going to tip off their competitors? Who cares? They're already out there and getting better. The community is the real strength of GameSalad... the friendly and helpful people of this community. By not communicating with the community, Gendai Games is damaging their best strength.
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