Project Merger Now Available!

UtopianGamesUtopianGames Member Posts: 5,692
edited November -1 in Working with GS (Mac)
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*NOW FOR SALE* please go to the market place.

Gathering some feedback on how much a tool like this is worth to you guys in case GS decide not to run with it.

We have no idea how many units we could sell but i can say myself and Wayne have put many many hours into it and I couldn't live without it but what do you think?

What price would you put on a tool that could save you hours/days of time and be used over and over again?



Darren.
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  • VoidedSkyVoidedSky Member Posts: 1,095
    I'd say about 35 to 50$ mabey, but I'm not sure. You guys did a great job with this, and I wish the best of luck to you both.
    ~CTM
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  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Well because you asked, "how much it's worth?" and not, "how much I'd want to pay" I would go with $50, but I'd rather pay $20. :)
  • IsabelleKIsabelleK Member, Sous Chef Posts: 2,807
    Do I understand right, that this app is to "join" two GS projects toghether? For example our game and a joystick demo?

    If yes, I'll pay even more than 100 USD for it!
  • UtopianGamesUtopianGames Member Posts: 5,692
    Yes m8 and it doesn't stop there because you can take the merged project with the 2 games in and then merge another and another.

    Darren.
  • gazjmgazjm Member Posts: 578
    would be good for including a demo of a new game into an existing game that has been downloaded alot!
  • AppChogieAppChogie Member Posts: 503
    This would be an invaluable program for any developer as I have 100 reason why I could use this now, right now :-P (Darren knows) but seriously this would be an excellent addition to GameSalad and I hope that the Big Boss Frank approves the purchase and gives it to the community as an extra feature, in or out of GS build.

    I would like to mention on the subject of Darren selling it direct if it comes to it (clearly something he and Wayne are trying to avoid) that this software is no mean feat and we should support their efforts if it's worth something to you.

    Keith.
  • scitunesscitunes Member, Sous Chef Posts: 4,047
    I would buy this right now if it were up for sale.
  • wayneh001wayneh001 Member Posts: 300
    Hi guys, thanks for all the comments relating to the GS Project Merger Application.
    I see there are various threads around, but I'll just chime in on this one and answer a few of the questions which have been raised.

    [Merging Projects with same name Image files]
    There is an option within the App to RENAME the images on the fly to ensure there is no mix-up with file names within the merged projects. Additionally, within the App you can choose to Rename; SCENES, IMAGES, SOUNDS and GAME ATTRIBUTES on the fly.

    [Attributes with the same name handling]
    As above, or if the case be, you can choose to not include the Attribute names from the 2nd project. This functionality is handy for merging Projects where 'teams' are working on Scene and Level creation. Ideally, remote teams would not add or alter, pre-defined attributes - this would be the responsibility of the Team Master.

    [Ability to convert GameSalad Project Source (XML/LUA) to Corona (LUA Script)]
    Hmmmm - I'm sure Corona will have a GUI in the future, so no need really.

    [Supply source code to App or make App Open Source]
    No, this wouldn't be an option at this time.

    Here's another video of the Application in action - if anyone has any further questions, we'll answer them as best we can.



    Cheers
    Wayne
  • EatingMyHatEatingMyHat Member Posts: 1,246
    I would definitely buy it for $20, I'll pay $50 only if I'll have a serious need.
  • VoidedSkyVoidedSky Member Posts: 1,095
    Nice to hear from you @wayneh001
    You guys did a GREAT job with this, and I can't wait to use this!
    ~CTM
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  • MLCinemaMLCinema Member Posts: 133
    $20. I don't know how much I would use it. GameSalad should just give it to us.
  • dazzlemedazzleme Member Posts: 152
    utopiangames, your work is undeniably impressive and valuable!

    GamersRejoice makes a good observation about the difference between worth and price. I wouldn't think twice about spending $20 on something I like, but I'm much slower to pull the trigger for anything higher - even when it's something I want and is clearly worth more.

    tshirtbooth makes an interesting point about credits and pirating. For me though, I would not likely buy credits - I'd much rather pay once and use at will. Otherwise, I'd spend all my credits just tinkering with ideas. ;)

    Hopefully GameSalad will buy this from you and put it in their tool!
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    I think I'd go for $100.

    I know it's probably worth a hell of a lot more, and the amount of effort you guys (*waves to Wayne and Darren*) must have been huge.

    Now that I'm in a 'team' of two, it would save us time and allow us to both work on the same project simultaneously.

    In addition, we could work on separate 'parts' of the game - say a top down level in one scene in one project, a side view in another scene in another project- then take these individual scenes and merge them together into separate scenes in a new 'Master' project file.

    Obviously I'd like it to cost less - and I'm sure you guys would like it to cost more - I think a happy medium could be reached if GameSalad don't go for it (and I can't see why they wouldn't to be honest).

    Good luck, mate!

    QS :D

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
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  • TwistedMechTwistedMech Member Posts: 408
    remember most people make a loss on their games so there should be an insentive if its going to cost a lot of money.

    Example would be $35 on its own or $149 with source code. On the PC, I tend to always buy the source code just in case the seller vanishes and the product needs updating for some reason.
  • StormyStudioStormyStudio United KingdomMember Posts: 3,989
    I've said around $50... but maybe a bit more.

    It would be great for my current game..to be able to move over some test projects I've got rather than having to remake all the bits...
  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    I would pay $50.

    Less would be ridiculous for the effort you have put into it.
    More I would't want to pay.
  • simo103simo103 Member, PRO Posts: 1,331
    Wayne/Darren .. I selected $100 because I believe it would reflect its true value however as with all things it might make more money priced less so more people purchase it.

    Wayne .. in your post:

    [Ability to convert GameSalad Project Source (XML/LUA) to Corona (LUA Script)]
    Hmmmm - I'm sure Corona will have a GUI in the future, so no need really.

    If GS do not pick this up from you guys .. please consider this part. The value of this then goes up hugely and I would suggest $50 per year on a subscription basis. I bet Corona coders would download GS and use their interface if it could be freed up back into Corona.
  • as7494as7494 Member Posts: 70
    this is AMAZING, i would pay a max of 20 $ for it though.
    I have a suggestion for Darren, if you could make it automatically upscale everything from iPhone to iPad Im sure this tool would become absolutely a necessity for any gamesalad developer.
  • mynameisacemynameisace Hull, UKMember Posts: 2,484
    Great tool that's had a lot of work put in to it but $20 seems a realistic figure, for $100 you can get non-GS related software that does a whole lot more.

    Cheers,
    Ace
  • UtopianGamesUtopianGames Member Posts: 5,692
    as7494 said:
    If you could make it automatically upscale everything from iPhone to iPad Im sure this tool would become absolutely a necessity for any gamesalad developer.

    We have been talking about a separate program to do this but it's not straight forward because of the iPad dimensions in relation to iPhone.

    Darren.
  • as7494as7494 Member Posts: 70
    utopiangames said:
    We have been talking about a separate program to do this but it's not straight forward because of the iPad dimensions in relation to iPhone.

    Darren.

    Someone could or I believe they can make a program that when merging automatically upscales the sizes by a constant that is in proportion to the iphone ipad ratio. Im not sure how your program works, but I would imagine since you have access to all these actors, images, pictures, behaviors, etc, you could create some kind of rule if lets say "upscale" was clicked as an option to multiple the sizes of all the actors to a certain amount. The positions dont have to be perfect but as long the actual work is done automatically it would be a hit.
  • UtopianGamesUtopianGames Member Posts: 5,692
    Yeah the size is not too much of a problem although i would imagine some art would look horrible stretched, its placing the actors in the correct place along with other various things to consider but like i say we have spoke about this being the next big release.

    If you want to be updated I'm collecting emails for a news letter.

    toyboxuk[AT]hotmail.com

    No need to apply if you have contacted me recently.

    Darren.
  • as7494as7494 Member Posts: 70
    sure i would like to be updated can you add me @ as7494@hotmail.com
  • CodeMonkeyCodeMonkey Head Chef, Member, PRO Posts: 1,803
    woot! I got mentioned. :)
  • beefy_clyrobeefy_clyro Member Posts: 5,394
    @CodeMonkey .... Any news on whether you will be incorporating this?
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  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Hunnenkoenig said:
    I would pay $50.

    Less would be ridiculous for the effort you have put into it.
    More I would't want to pay.

    This is the truth!

    The iPhone to iPad thing would be awesome btw!

    QS :D

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
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    Web: https://quantumsheep.itch.io

  • butterbeanbutterbean Member Posts: 4,315
    I would pay $50 for it, but I'm sure with the effort you guys have put in it's worth more, this is probably one of the most desired features!
  • HunnenkoenigHunnenkoenig Member Posts: 1,173
    @GS:

    Maybe give these two guys the source code, pay them a shitload of money and sit and wait.

    Maybe THEY could give us THE GameSalad, we need within a few months.

    Fire the incompetents, who you pay now.
  • mithraweptmithrawept Member, PRO Posts: 167
    Having bought Darren's excellent platform template, I need to merge my existing project with the template, so this will be extremely useful. I think that many of us would pay for the ability to merge projects, probably many more than would buy a template, so the potential market is bigger? How about a start at $20 and increase to $50 later?
  • JGary321JGary321 Member Posts: 1,246
    It would be silly & ridiculous to even THINK about offering this for $20. All you who put $20 should be ashamed of yourselves =)
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