Is game development good to live on?

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  • debugdesigndebugdesign Member Posts: 886
    No worries about the beer... There are slot of good wines and some SWEET cocktails about...

    Seriously tho, 'the game' is a wicked book and quite a fitting title considering why we are all chatting.

    Try and enjoy the game making process whilst you can as soon enough time will get filled up with responsibilities, DIY, eating, spending money on things which are essential but no fun (car tax, whitening toothpaste and plants) and it's nearly impossible to put quality time into a project.
  • synthesissynthesis Member Posts: 1,693
    If you can't decide "what to be when you grow up"...then just work at high school and do whatever you have to do to go to college. College is a 180 degree flip from High School. NOTHING carries over...its a fresh start and one you should work to getting for yourself.

    After that...if you can't decide what to study...study business...as it applies to EVERYTHING! Then study computer science...if that is your interest...but you don't need a degree in that to do it...a business degree will be more beneficial.

    Then when you are 25...you can start worrying about how you are going to make a living. The world will be different then...and better.

    Key points: Study, practice, stay busy, stay flexible, and continue to LEARN!!!
  • iDeveloperziDeveloperz Member Posts: 1,169
    I think I will learn graphics and web design. Which means Adobe student CS5.

    After I learn a bit can I have some test subjects to make a free website?
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    debugdesign said:
    Seriously tho, 'the game' is a wicked book and quite a fitting title considering why we are all chatting.

    I've heard of this book from friends of mine. It personally sounds quite vile to me :(

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
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    Web: https://quantumsheep.itch.io

  • debugdesigndebugdesign Member Posts: 886
    @quantum sheep

    really??? It's very well written And tells an interesting and sometimes funny true story with a moral... It's not actually a pick up manual but shows how confidence and brains is better than looks and brawn.

    My real favourite is 'life of pi' but it's not really appropriate in the discussion.
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    Maybe I've heard of a different book, but the one I was told about basically tells you to find flaws in the other person, even if there aren't any obvious ones, or manufacture some, and then make the other person feel bad about themselves to make them talk to you.

    I just thought that sounded very sad.

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Quantum_Sheep
    Web: https://quantumsheep.itch.io

  • debugdesigndebugdesign Member Posts: 886
    No, you have the right book... But I guess different people take different things from it. In the case you mentioned there was a couple of beautiful blonde twins who thought they were the bee's knee's and in order for the protagonist to stand a chance he needed to 'playfully' reduce their ego in order to beat their pre conceived stereotype of who they should be dating (movie stars, rich models etc). Using a negative comment (or neg) help to create emotions or tensions between people, this emotion is more productive than one person just 'writing off ' the person without a second thought. Friends often mock each other to show feelings but if a stranger does it you tread a fine line of sounding insulting...

    When I read it after uni I could look back at my time and see how I had unkowIngly used some of the techniques (badly) such as using my dread locks and hawiiaan shirts as a way of 'peacocking'. If I had understood further the psychological background of this I might have appreciated it more.
  • JamesZeppelinJamesZeppelin Member Posts: 1,927
    quantumsheep said:

    And that Pachobel, eh? I can't believe he stole the chords structure from a Green Day song. OUTRAGEOUS!!!

    QS :)

    Then Pachobel turned around and sold em to blues traveler....

    cannon in DEEEEEEEZ.......
  • IgnisIgnis Member Posts: 72
    iDeveloperz said:
    With help from a good friend, I decided to focus on web design. Maybe I'll take up iPhone programming when I come 20-22. But because at the moment I make games with game salad as a hobby. I won't be buying another licensee next year because I simply can't afford one. Unless of course they do updates to make unlimited scenes possible and then somehow Istax makes me £150.

    IDeveloperz, please relax and take life as it comes. Take it from the "elders" here... myself (34), Scitunes (31), and the others which I can't name all of. Alot of people are worried about the future. I myself am venturing into GameSalad because my steady job (programming/translating foreign language books for online education) will be slowing down for the summer. But as TShirtBooth said, you CAN... not "can't", but CAN. Optimism and achievement, this is what pushes mankind forward. I grew depressed about my own situation for about a week, then I decided "now is the time to start learning GameSalad, even if I earn a whopping zero dollars and I produce not even one game that anybody cares about." I'm just having fun with this, and I think everybody can use a little more fun in their life!

    As for "careers", they are overrated in my opinion. Totally and utterly overrated. Look at the stats: people of our generation change "careers" around 7-8 times? So how can one form a "career" if they change it every 3-5 years? I programmed games on the Commodore 64 in high school. I went to college and dutifully achieved my degree in Graphic Design. I fortunately hit the Internet bubble around 1997 and learned Web Design and Cold Fusion programming. I started my own web design business and kept it for 3 years, until I became so bored and apathetic, I couldn't endure one more day of it. So I moved to Japan... yes, Japan... and became and English teacher for 2 years, the best time of my life. Then I moved back home, and started programming again. Then I spent 5 months in South America and learned large-format photography. And then 9 months in Malta, Italy, Tunisia, and China. And then 5 months in Spain and Portugal. All the while, taking photos and really just enjoying life!. I was able to do this because I relaxed and stopped fretting about a "career" and some "place I was supposed to be". My place is where I want to be. Your place is where you want to be.

    So please, relax. You're young, you're talented, and you can forge the future you want... with effort and dedication. Alot of people are in the same boat, and they're not all young.

    Brent

    P.S. - and get laid as Scitunes says. It clears the mind, and from the mind flows amazing Gamesalad ideas. :)
  • ForteForte Member, PRO Posts: 297
    Hi there,

    Before I start just so you know im 13 so im not sure if im saying things right but this is what came into my head.

    You need to have a positive attitude towards school. When I was 10, 11 and stuff, I wouldnt be the best in my class!

    And my marks were failing and my dream of being a computer programmer was starting to fade. I was bullied about people saying I was stupid so my self-esteem went crashing down and then stopping me at trying hard in school. So one day, I told myself, "you know what? F*** them! I can get through school, I just have to try harder and dont be so down if things dont go the way it should go, just try again and then eventully you will get the hang of it"

    Im only 13 and im not sure if i should be telling you ideas...

    Anyway, Good Luck!

    Cheers, Dragokillz
  • ChunkypixelsChunkypixels Member Posts: 1,114
    From what you said, you seem to have taken a knock in confidence and direction due to realising that the game you want to create isnt really feasable with GameSalad in its current state.

    My advice would be to put that idea to one side, look at the engine and its capabilities again, then design a new game that is possible. Dont throw in the towel... just step back, re-evaluate and work out a new plan of attack.

    You actually sound pretty focused for someone of your age, and have a direction figured out that you'd like to go.

    It just takes time... so relax a bit, and dont give up just because things dont work out first time.
  • quantumsheepquantumsheep Member Posts: 8,188
    @Dragokillz - we're the same age, mentally! :D

    @ignis - what a great story!

    I'm facing redundancy for the second time in less than a year. This time I'm more prepared, have saved some money, and I'm looking forward to the time off! I see it as an opportunity more than a worry!

    Honestly, GameSalad has given me a focus. I feel I'm being productive using it, even if nothing comes of it. I enjoy it! Currently I come home from nine hours at work and will always do *Something* productive with GS during the night.

    I'm seriously thinking of getting *out* of the games industry. There's just no security there, and I can still make my own games in my spare time. I do love my job though...

    I've learned not to worry about things. I think time has a way of sorting things out ;)

    QS :D

    Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home...
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Quantum_Sheep
    Web: https://quantumsheep.itch.io

  • ForteForte Member, PRO Posts: 297
    @quantumsheep - Rofl
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