All they need to do is trace the money. Apple doesn't payout to paypal so there must be a money trail. If he committed fraud in the amounts they suggest the FBI should get involved.
This is a screenshot from the top chart (payed games) 3-4 days ago. Im sure you recognize the name right?
Same top chart today (free games)
This. I pointed this out in another thread, even though 4 or 5 people agreed with me, the thread was closed for other reasons.
For those that didn't/couldn't read that comment, this @talo guy LITERALLY has the exact thing as Mateen. I mean, the description is EXACTLY THE SAME, the screenshots are EXACTLY THE SAME, heck even the order of the screenshots are IDENTICAL. And of course the icon, which was not part of this $10 template, is EXACTLY THE SAME. This is evidence enough to ban @talo's IP.
Funny how @talo has had nothing to say since the whole Forums was onto his act, even though he has in fact been active since it began...
There must be a new boosting thing going on, because if you look at the number 10 in top paid charts in US, its a pretty basic gs app named Go Go Ball, and if you check out the developers other apps, a lot of templates with what looks to be no changes to them at all.
There must be a new boosting thing going on, because if you look at the number 10 in top paid charts in US, its a pretty basic gs app named Go Go Ball, and if you check out the developers other apps, a lot of templates with what looks to be no changes to them at all.
Thats one of Mateens aliases or partner. "Firoozeh Morady"
There must be a new boosting thing going on, because if you look at the number 10 in top paid charts in US, its a pretty basic gs app named Go Go Ball, and if you check out the developers other apps, a lot of templates with what looks to be no changes to them at all.
Thats one of Mateens aliases or partner. "Firoozeh Morady"
This is just crazy. But the sad part is while we argue amongs ourselves, Mateen is getting a free ride out there. If anyone's a legit law school graduate here, what's the procedure for me (us) to get the law involved? Maybe technically we can't 100% prove some of his obvious actions, but there sure is enough to get someone arrested...
I'm sure he has done something illegal, but as far as I can tell exploiting Apple's algorithm's is not against the law. The one thing that could possibly get him is if he's using stolen card information on botted accounts, or if he's scamming people to fund his rank boostings and gets caught.
Please understand, we all know what kind of guy he is, but there really isn't anything we can do at the moment aside from letting apple know what they undoubtedly already know.
Story Time: This reminds me of an experience I had. I use to work at Macy's and two sketchy guys came over to my register in the polo section. The first guy walked up to me wanting to buy a gift card, handed me the card, and told me to put $500 on it. He proceeded to pay for the $500 dollar Macy's gift card with a stack of Macy's gift cards in $25 and $50 increments he claimed to have received from relatives...
Alarm bells are going off immediately. But I play it cool and put all the cards onto the one. I'm about to leave when his friend walks up and does the same thing. We finish and they head downstairs and I rush to tell a manager. She smiles and says, "Ok. If you think something is up the only thing you can do is call loss prevention." So I pick up the phone and do just that. The loss prevention person tells me she will talk to me in person at my register. I waited... and waited... and waited. Turns out she clocked out right after our phone call.
Later that night I hear that the two men were known criminals. They tried to buy jewelry with the card they bought through me, and the people in the jewelry department recognized them. The police were contacted by loss prevention who recognized them as well, the police identified them as known criminals for other crimes already committed (probably stealing the cards) and were taken to jail.
Now let me be clear. They were obviously up to no good, but they were not arrested for trying to buy jewelry in a sketchy way. There is a gift of fear we all have when we encounter certain people, that lets us know something isn't right. But there isn't anything you can do sometimes besides just telling the right people. And so we wait... and wait... and wait.
Trust me. If there's one thing I know, Mateen will get his. Just... eventually.
I think @Talo is pretty smart I think not a lot of people thought of that. Just buy that template and put it free in app store. People search for that name and download the free one because its the same. And now he is earning money from the ads. He isnt a scammer or something. Just smart.
I think @Talo is pretty smart I think not a lot of people thought of that. Just buy that template and put it free in app store. People search for that name and download the free one because its the same. And now he is earning money from the ads. He isnt a scammer or something. Just smart.
Not up to much good today, it seems... I'm going to tag @DeepBlueApps one more time so he sees this faster. As far as I know, he doesn't sell the full game template WITH original artwork and sounds.
Chakku
Edit- seems for now he's playing the publish-templates-without-any-change game...
Template Features Amazing Universal Build code 100 complete Levels! Never released to the ANDROID, WINDOWS or MAC APP STORES! Includes all Art and Audio The full iOS source Code Amazing animations and tricks See how a full commercial game is made
I will explain briefly. I bought the game from gshelper, and I build 20 levels..
Metten paken are probebly scammer, that got downloads from bots... he was getting to the top in us. and my game also received downloads! but from my side everything was legal.
I will explain briefly. I bought the game from gshelper, and I build 20 levels..
Metten paken are probebly scammer, that got downloads from bots... he was getting to the top in us. and my game also received downloads! but from my side everything was legal.
End of story.
@talo conveniently showed up when we messed up with the Viking accusation.
Yeah, ok, but care to explain why your Spikey Ball thingy is so high in the rankings, yet is a carbon copy word-for-word of Mateen's app?? Any ideas on how your Spikey Ball game got #2? We're all recently so used to seeing GS apps in the Top Charts, but really...how can this $10 Template legitimately get to be #2?? I'd love to hear your marketing strategy, @talo.
End of story.
@talo No...we're very far from the end of this. You don't just happen to submit an identical app with an identical icon, description, screenshots, and order of screenshots.
Templates have .gameprojs, NOT icons, descriptions, and screenshots....
I will explain briefly. I bought the game from gshelper, and I build 20 levels..
Metten paken are probebly scammer, that got downloads from bots... he was getting to the top in us. and my game also received downloads! but from my side everything was legal.
End of story.
@talo The Little Vikings Template is not available on GSHelper, and it comes with 100 levels (I just checked).
I think @Talo is pretty smart I think not a lot of people thought of that. Just buy that template and put it free in app store. People search for that name and download the free one because its the same. And now he is earning money from the ads. He isnt a scammer or something. Just smart.
this is why its #2. you search name and download free version before paid...
End of story.
@talo No...we're very far from the end of this. You don't just happen to submit an identical app with an identical icon, description, screenshots, and order of screenshots.
Templates have .gameprojs, NOT icons, descriptions, and screenshots....
I think @Talo is pretty smart I think not a lot of people thought of that. Just buy that template and put it free in app store. People search for that name and download the free one because its the same. And now he is earning money from the ads. He isnt a scammer or something. Just smart.
this is why its #2. you search name and download free version before paid...
@timolapre1998 Yeah ok, but who in the right mind is searching for Red Ball Spikey thingy?? The only people buying the app are those that see it in the Top Charts. Nobody's searching for it by name...
I will explain briefly. I bought the game from gshelper, and I build 20 levels..
Metten paken are probebly scammer, that got downloads from bots... he was getting to the top in us. and my game also received downloads! but from my side everything was legal.
End of story.
@Talo Really now? Hmm, well I looked at DBA's site for that Little Viking game. I don't see anything on there giving you the rights to use the art and sound assets for commercial use. It only states they are included with the project. Which my interpretation would be just that. It just came with the project more than likely as placeholders. If there is no written or implied statement granting you the right to use those assets commercially then the default stance would be you don't have the right to use those assets commercially.
All that aside, what you are doing is shady. Do you really lack creativity that much that you need to outright take someone else's game and toss it up as your own on the market?
@timolapre1998 I agree with @uptimistik. Do you really need to encourage someone to do unethical acts?
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There is a lot of speculation happening and I caution people against attacking someone without knowing for sure. That being said, I do have confirmation that Talo attempted to profit financially from selling other people's work. And based on that I am banning his account.
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For those that didn't/couldn't read that comment, this @talo guy LITERALLY has the exact thing as Mateen. I mean, the description is EXACTLY THE SAME, the screenshots are EXACTLY THE SAME, heck even the order of the screenshots are IDENTICAL. And of course the icon, which was not part of this $10 template, is EXACTLY THE SAME. This is evidence enough to ban @talo's IP.
Funny how @talo has had nothing to say since the whole Forums was onto his act, even though he has in fact been active since it began...
Chakku
Chakku
Please understand, we all know what kind of guy he is, but there really isn't anything we can do at the moment aside from letting apple know what they undoubtedly already know.
Story Time:
This reminds me of an experience I had. I use to work at Macy's and two sketchy guys came over to my register in the polo section. The first guy walked up to me wanting to buy a gift card, handed me the card, and told me to put $500 on it. He proceeded to pay for the $500 dollar Macy's gift card with a stack of Macy's gift cards in $25 and $50 increments he claimed to have received from relatives...
Alarm bells are going off immediately. But I play it cool and put all the cards onto the one. I'm about to leave when his friend walks up and does the same thing. We finish and they head downstairs and I rush to tell a manager. She smiles and says, "Ok. If you think something is up the only thing you can do is call loss prevention." So I pick up the phone and do just that. The loss prevention person tells me she will talk to me in person at my register. I waited... and waited... and waited. Turns out she clocked out right after our phone call.
Later that night I hear that the two men were known criminals. They tried to buy jewelry with the card they bought through me, and the people in the jewelry department recognized them. The police were contacted by loss prevention who recognized them as well, the police identified them as known criminals for other crimes already committed (probably stealing the cards) and were taken to jail.
Now let me be clear. They were obviously up to no good, but they were not arrested for trying to buy jewelry in a sketchy way. There is a gift of fear we all have when we encounter certain people, that lets us know something isn't right. But there isn't anything you can do sometimes besides just telling the right people. And so we wait... and wait... and wait.
Trust me. If there's one thing I know, Mateen will get his. Just... eventually.
✮ FREE templates at GSinvention ✮
✮ Available for hire! support@gsinvention.com ✮
http://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/free-the-viking/
Does he own the rights to this?
It’s not a bug – it’s an undocumented feature
Maybe you could shed some light on this mate?
I'm going to tag @DeepBlueApps one more time so he sees this faster. As far as I know, he doesn't sell the full game template WITH original artwork and sounds.
Chakku
Edit- seems for now he's playing the publish-templates-without-any-change game...
http://www.deepblueapps.com/little-viking/
Template Features
Amazing Universal Build code
100 complete Levels!
Never released to the ANDROID, WINDOWS or MAC APP STORES!
Includes all Art and Audio
The full iOS source Code
Amazing animations and tricks
See how a full commercial game is made
✮ FREE templates at GSinvention ✮
✮ Available for hire! support@gsinvention.com ✮
I bought the game from gshelper, and I build 20 levels..
Metten paken are probebly scammer, that got downloads from bots...
he was getting to the top in us.
and my game also received downloads!
but from my side everything was legal.
End of story.
Yeah, ok, but care to explain why your Spikey Ball thingy is so high in the rankings, yet is a carbon copy word-for-word of Mateen's app?? Any ideas on how your Spikey Ball game got #2? We're all recently so used to seeing GS apps in the Top Charts, but really...how can this $10 Template legitimately get to be #2?? I'd love to hear your marketing strategy, @talo. @talo No...we're very far from the end of this. You don't just happen to submit an identical app with an identical icon, description, screenshots, and order of screenshots.
Templates have .gameprojs, NOT icons, descriptions, and screenshots....
Chakku
The Little Vikings Template is not available on GSHelper, and it comes with 100 levels (I just checked).
Nice Story.
copy... paste...
✮ FREE templates at GSinvention ✮
✮ Available for hire! support@gsinvention.com ✮
Yeah ok, but who in the right mind is searching for Red Ball Spikey thingy?? The only people buying the app are those that see it in the Top Charts. Nobody's searching for it by name...
Chakku
Really now? Hmm, well I looked at DBA's site for that Little Viking game. I don't see anything on there giving you the rights to use the art and sound assets for commercial use. It only states they are included with the project. Which my interpretation would be just that. It just came with the project more than likely as placeholders. If there is no written or implied statement granting you the right to use those assets commercially then the default stance would be you don't have the right to use those assets commercially.
All that aside, what you are doing is shady. Do you really lack creativity that much that you need to outright take someone else's game and toss it up as your own on the market?
@timolapre1998 I agree with @uptimistik. Do you really need to encourage someone to do unethical acts?
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