Official Flappy Bird Thread - for all things flappy bird (including clones)
jonmulcahy
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From this point forward all posts about flappy bird should be in this thread. This includes posting about your clone, your friends clone, your fake clone. all of it.
let's keep the rest of the forums flappy bird free.
I am going to be merging all threads on the first page into this thread.
edit: this is sad. I moved 4 threads and that is just on the main page!
let's keep the rest of the forums flappy bird free.
I am going to be merging all threads on the first page into this thread.
edit: this is sad. I moved 4 threads and that is just on the main page!
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Also, are those bullets and plants direct copies from Mario? To attempt to parody Flappy Bird is one thing, but to use art so similar to Mario is really pushing your luck. Could result in 2 separate lawsuits.
This would likely be the case yours would be compared to:
"In 2007, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals denied a fair use defense in the Dr. Seuss Enterprises v. Penguin Books case. Citing the Campbell v. Acuff-Rose decision, they found that a satire of the O.J. Simpson murder trial and parody of The Cat in the Hat had infringed upon the children's book because it did not provide a commentary function upon that work." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody
I'm not trying to tell you this to rain on your parade. Looks like a cool game, but I am giving you some warning because you may be in some hot water. Especially if they notice you start profiting or stealing away their customers.
I'd have to pretty much agree with all of that, it's sailing pretty close to the wind ! The one thing I'd add is that he'd likely get a cease and desist order rather than the owners of Flappy Bird / Mario taking it straight to a lawsuit, but generally speaking I have to agree.
And like you say, this is not said to be critical (I like the look of the game, I love the music too !), but if it comes to the attentions of the owners of Flappy Bird / Mario they may well take action.
I'd change a few elements to put it out of harms way.
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It's one thing to take ideas from graphics or a game to make your own.
It's completely different to copy and paste a game and change graphics a little!
Each to their own.
@Socks - It's actually 3 tracks I meshed together from artists on the former 8bc.
@StormyStudio - haha yep, flopbang to that music!
@FallacyStudios - Yeah, I don't know if I'll be asked to remove it or if the stores eventually remove it. So far I've seen several copy apps that have been removed but Amazon seems to be ok w/ mine so far since it is a parody. They've approved it 3 times with metadata updates. It is a parody as in it provides commentary (on each level there's messages which are supposed to represent the user's thoughts) and also if you play the game for a bit you'll see it's different with gameplay changes and also a transformation of the main character. Also the game is much harder as the character is "floppier" and the pipes are closer together. The game is self aware of it and uses this as an aspect of the parody and is commented on by the main character. As for graphics I redid all of them with Pixen and theres no direct copies. But a part of the parody is that Flappy Bird has art inspired by Mario (and almost exact) so I take it one step further and ask "What's the difference between recreating 1 pipe asset or several that closely resemble ones from Nintendo?." So I have the Nintendo assets recreated to look like the bird during the dream sequence which shows how it took the pipe from Mario but now to many people it belongs to Flappy Bird. For the story parody of the game it's that you become so addicted and tired that you start to think you are floppy and you both die from exhaustion. Then there's a surprise ending which I won't spoil.
@jamie_c - Agreed, Yes Flappy Bird is far from original but it's the "original" copycat and is popular so it gets away with it.
@TouchiMedia - Actually this game is showing that you can do a "copy" app but add some value to it instead of making an inferior game that is simply re-skinned. I have shown this to many people who love the original and they like Floppy Bird because it adds to that experience as a parody. I don't think this will take away from the original but provides a comic version as a companion. So this is actually opposite of what many devs do which is re-skin a game with no additional value. This is a version that's similar in aesthetics but provides a comic story which comments on the addictiveness, difficulty, and use of Mario pipe assets by taking it further.
@Crazybreadman I see. From your description it does seem to better fit a parody than originally thought. From the video it just looked so close that I questioned it more. I haven't played it as of yet, so I obviously haven't seen a full picture of it. Like @Socks said you would likely get a cease and desist before anything else anyways. I just wanted to give you a bit of warning and caution. I know it would suck to get slapped with a lawsuit. Especially getting blind sided by one.
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Yes it's normal that Amazon suppressed it, it was an identical copy of Flappy Birds,
could You make a re-skin version of this app and try to republish it,
anyway all "Flappy Bird" clones were pulled down of Amazon market...
I had also made an identical game and now i can't publish it on Amazon...
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@pinkio75 - Actually it wasn't identical as all art was redone by me and just resembled the original (which again isn't so original itself haha). The reason it looked so similar is because it was a parody and should resemble the original. I won't re-skin it because that defeats the purpose. I do have an idea of what to do if they won't put it back on the store though. I think they just are removing all apps featuring a bird and obstacles at the moment. Of course Ironpants is not removed but does not feature a bird. Kind of weird since their top 100 chart is full of clones of there games. I think maybe they are just doing it to not have their top chart flooded w/ clones, but I'm trying to contact them to explain why my app is a parody and should be allowed under the fair use doctrine which includes parodies or spoofs of any work. It fulfills being a parody as if refers to the original work and in some way requires use of the original for the user to understand it. The example @FallacyStudios gave of a parody being rejected in court was because it didn't reference the original in any way. On the same page it also listed how a parody for "Gone With the Wind" was upheld in court because it did reference the original and you had to have knowledge of the original to understand the parody.
and then you get monetary profits from it...
anyway this is my personal interpretation...
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