@drizzling said: @68kStudios i have submitted this bug and they found it an issue in 1.24 series and this bug is absent in 1.23 .
They mentioned that the bug seemed to resolve in 1.25 and so hope they will release 1.25 soon! Hang in there!
Maybe the table cell display issue could be just a lag.. as in it couldn't catch up with the performance in the ad hoc devices (Both in android and iOS) .. So if performance of 1.25 is better/faster .. this will resolve by itself
I hope so! Anyway, I don't think that is just a "display" issue.
In my game, I use table values as condition.
Example: If you have X gold (value saved in a table) and want to buy an item that cost Y, if X>Y you can touch an icon and buy the item. After the first purchase, you don't have enough gold to buy the item, but the amount displayed doesn't change and if you touch again and again the icon you buy other items. When you change the scene and come back to the first scene, you will see that now you have a negative amount of gold and a lot of items! So, I think that the table management overall is quite slow in 1.24.
@68kStudios Hey guess what, My table reference issue is exactly like yours!! Haha.. as in I have carrot as the currency in my game, where gamers can buy items and the display text reference is table cell value! No wonder we have the exact same problem! Don't worry, the team is aware of this issue already.. Since yours is so similar to mine..
But for my case, overtime I change scene/reset, the table cell value will be auto corrected and displayed correctly. So I always tot its a laggy issue... that the table cell value just couldn't catch up as the actor that display this text has Lots of rules.. My case is the rules are calculating in the background.. just only table cell display is wrong..
Hmm Mayb you can file a bug report to game salad team. They do fixed the bug i reported.. But If you file personally, they will be able fix the bug more specific to your game.
@68kStudios ah! My carrot, which is X in you case.. Is a game attribute!! Not a table attribute!
Maybe that's y my rule is still counting in the background!
May I ask the pros here.. Let's say we are using creator version previous version, am I able to publish it?
I tried using previous version of creator to do my work.. But I realize even when I publish my game, with the previous version, the bugs of the latest creator version surfaces.. As in as if I have updated my creator...?
I think they support previous versions up to a point, not sure if 13.33 or 13.34 are using engine 1.0 during publishing now or the older engine though. They are about 6 months old after all. @BlackCloakGS ?
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I dont know but my game is not going well with this version, the gs viewer shows no bug during testing but during publish testing, my actors stop spawning after certain level, and never resumes.. I couldnt release my game as this issue is still there.. hope they fix this issue soon as it has been 1 week still no success.. And also I see performance issue..
@Nabbo said:
I dont know but my game is not going well with this version, the gs viewer shows no bug during testing but during publish testing, my actors stop spawning after certain level, and never resumes.. I couldnt release my game as this issue is still there.. hope they fix this issue soon as it has been 1 week still no success.. And also I see performance issue..
My game is also have performance issues... It was working smooth and 60 fps in older versions but in 1.24.42, my game still works on 60 fps but keep stuttering randomly... Cant release like this either. Hoping for fix asap.
My game is also have performance issues... It was working smooth and 60 fps in older versions but in 1.24.42, my game still works on 60 fps but keep stuttering randomly... Cant release like this either. Hoping for fix asap.
I've noticed stuttering but I thought I was just seeing things.
@Nabbo said:
I dont know but my game is not going well with this version, the gs viewer shows no bug during testing but during publish testing, my actors stop spawning after certain level, and never resumes.. I couldnt release my game as this issue is still there.. hope they fix this issue soon as it has been 1 week still no success.. And also I see performance issue..
My game is also have performance issues... It was working smooth and 60 fps in older versions but in 1.24.42, my game still works on 60 fps but keep stuttering randomly... Cant release like this either. Hoping for fix asap.
You are right I see that same random stuttering and sometimes worst!! I think I will wait till they fix these issue Donno when
My game is also have performance issues... It was working smooth and 60 fps in older versions but in 1.24.42, my game still works on 60 fps but keep stuttering randomly... Cant release like this either. Hoping for fix asap.
I've noticed stuttering but I thought I was just seeing things.
Ill join the "stuttering" club. Have been driving me crazy.. Glad i'm not the only one. My game also run at 60 fps and random stuttering happen. Looks and feels bad. Can't release a game with that.
Ill join the "stuttering" club. Have been driving me crazy.. Glad i'm not the only one. My game also run at 60 fps and random stuttering happen. Looks and feels bad. Can't release a game with that.
Happen both at gs viewer and ad hoc build.
I noticed it at the same point in the game. But been back on13.33 lately so can't really help with specifics.
I 'm not experiencing this at all? (Stutter/Collision issues)
What tool are you using to generate the poly shape?
I use PhysicsEditor (the paid for version) as the other free tool had issues. https://www.codeandweb.com/physicseditor
@freneticz said:
Is there no easy way to open in a older version?
I use the fix to the CoM that is specific to creator 1.24.42.
It is fixed in 1.25. Be patient they are working out many issues and are on the case. 1.25 is going to be a great build they just need time to sort out all the bugs. It's not easy to debug software like GS. Some bugs need a new technique to be implemented code wise.
@freneticz said:
Is there no easy way to open in a older version?
I use the fix to the CoM that is specific to creator 1.24.42.
It is fixed in 1.25. Be patient they are working out many issues and are on the case. 1.25 is going to be a great build they just need time to sort out all the bugs. It's not easy to debug software like GS. Some bugs need a new technique to be implemented code wise.
Thanks for the info. It's ok.
Not rushing, just wondered if I needed to wait a day or better to download and build in Xcode.
Downloaded already.
@Toby said:
I 'm not experiencing this at all? (Stutter/Collision issues)
What tool are you using to generate the poly shape?
I use PhysicsEditor (the paid for version) as the other free tool had issues. https://www.codeandweb.com/physicseditor
I also use PhysicsEditor. But are seeing the stuttering without using any custom collision.
It mostly look like a ram emptying or something like that, as it happen very random. Sometimes the game runs smooth and suddenly it all goes in stutter mode..
Is this during a scene or right after a scene change? Is there anything particular in your projects that seems to make it worse? We're always working on general improvements, but if there's a specific issue that we don't know about and don't have test projects that will allow us to duplicate it we can't be sure we'll catch it.
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I hope so! Anyway, I don't think that is just a "display" issue.
In my game, I use table values as condition.
Example: If you have X gold (value saved in a table) and want to buy an item that cost Y, if X>Y you can touch an icon and buy the item. After the first purchase, you don't have enough gold to buy the item, but the amount displayed doesn't change and if you touch again and again the icon you buy other items. When you change the scene and come back to the first scene, you will see that now you have a negative amount of gold and a lot of items! So, I think that the table management overall is quite slow in 1.24.
@68kStudios Hey guess what, My table reference issue is exactly like yours!! Haha.. as in I have carrot as the currency in my game, where gamers can buy items and the display text reference is table cell value! No wonder we have the exact same problem! Don't worry, the team is aware of this issue already.. Since yours is so similar to mine..
But for my case, overtime I change scene/reset, the table cell value will be auto corrected and displayed correctly. So I always tot its a laggy issue... that the table cell value just couldn't catch up as the actor that display this text has Lots of rules.. My case is the rules are calculating in the background.. just only table cell display is wrong..
Hmm Mayb you can file a bug report to game salad team. They do fixed the bug i reported.. But If you file personally, they will be able fix the bug more specific to your game.
Let's keep our finger cross ya ..
@68kStudios ah! My carrot, which is X in you case.. Is a game attribute!! Not a table attribute!
Maybe that's y my rule is still counting in the background!
Performance.
I know we had much worse versions where you had to re-start game salad every 5 minutes.
Than we had a fixed version. Than there was new updates and back is the progressively decreasing performance within the editor.
Right now I find myself re-starting game salad all 30 minutes because loading between scenes rises up to several seconds between scenes and actors.
Its frustrating for me.
And it would be great to hear that you guys are aware of it.
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I find I go back to creator 13.33. It's so much faster. Those extra seconds between clicks kills productivity.
0.13.33 is the performance best version,now.
Keep your project backup on "0.13.33",this is very important.
May I ask the pros here.. Let's say we are using creator version previous version, am I able to publish it?
I tried using previous version of creator to do my work.. But I realize even when I publish my game, with the previous version, the bugs of the latest creator version surfaces.. As in as if I have updated my creator...?
I think they support previous versions up to a point, not sure if 13.33 or 13.34 are using engine 1.0 during publishing now or the older engine though. They are about 6 months old after all. @BlackCloakGS ?
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I have to agree that working with GS is slower and slower with each new release again. However, definitely not so bad as with spring 2015 release.
I dont know but my game is not going well with this version, the gs viewer shows no bug during testing but during publish testing, my actors stop spawning after certain level, and never resumes.. I couldnt release my game as this issue is still there.. hope they fix this issue soon as it has been 1 week still no success.. And also I see performance issue..
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My game is also have performance issues... It was working smooth and 60 fps in older versions but in 1.24.42, my game still works on 60 fps but keep stuttering randomly... Cant release like this either. Hoping for fix asap.
I've noticed stuttering but I thought I was just seeing things.
Hi @kirafu, I need this version! where I can found it?
You are right I see that same random stuttering and sometimes worst!! I think I will wait till they fix these issue Donno when
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Anyone know if there will be a 1.24.42 version of the GS Viewer?
1.24.41 does not allow my flippers to detect collisions with the ball in my pinball game although Creator 1.24.42 does.
Is there no easy way to open in a older version?
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Ill join the "stuttering" club. Have been driving me crazy.. Glad i'm not the only one. My game also run at 60 fps and random stuttering happen. Looks and feels bad. Can't release a game with that.
Happen both at gs viewer and ad hoc build.
I noticed it at the same point in the game. But been back on13.33 lately so can't really help with specifics.
I use the fix to the CoM that is specific to creator 1.24.42.
I 'm not experiencing this at all? (Stutter/Collision issues)
What tool are you using to generate the poly shape?
I use PhysicsEditor (the paid for version) as the other free tool had issues.
https://www.codeandweb.com/physicseditor
It is fixed in 1.25. Be patient they are working out many issues and are on the case. 1.25 is going to be a great build they just need time to sort out all the bugs. It's not easy to debug software like GS. Some bugs need a new technique to be implemented code wise.
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Thanks for the info. It's ok.
Not rushing, just wondered if I needed to wait a day or better to download and build in Xcode.
Downloaded already.
I also use PhysicsEditor. But are seeing the stuttering without using any custom collision.
It mostly look like a ram emptying or something like that, as it happen very random. Sometimes the game runs smooth and suddenly it all goes in stutter mode..
Is this during a scene or right after a scene change? Is there anything particular in your projects that seems to make it worse? We're always working on general improvements, but if there's a specific issue that we don't know about and don't have test projects that will allow us to duplicate it we can't be sure we'll catch it.
To me it seems the stuttering started when the "slow motion" bug was fixed. Almost like the slowmo was replaced with the stuttering.
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