IntelligentDesigner said: @Giacomopoppi, What features does jail breaking add that are worth sacrificing security? Besides stealing software?
I enabled multitasking on my 2nd Gen touch... I can create a 3g hotspot on my iPhone... You can customize every aspect of the OS... The list goes on and on.. Some people think its worth it, other don't, but those things TO ME, at least, are worth it..
IntelligentDesigner said: Chosenonestudios, I am not telling YOU anything. Your conscience is. If you become incontinent now, it is your choice. Have fun.
Hahahhaha, I laughed, when I read "incontinent", though I'm not sure, which context you were using it in...
My conscience is? WTF? I don't feel even remotely bad about jbing... Neither does the government either, because they mandated it was LEGAL...
@chosenonestudios, I was not directing my advice to you personally, although you took it that way. Hence my statement that it was your conscience prompting you to reply.
Sure it's legal, but it's not a good thing to do. Apparently you can change your screen backdrops and add folders, which you can do in iOS4 anyway, without exposing yourself to hackers. I can't imagine the horrors of multitasking on a 2G, so that is not an advantage, shall we agree?
IntelligentDesigner said: I can't imagine the horrors of multitasking on a 2G, so that is not an advantage, shall we agree?
Not sure what you mean by a "3G hotspot"...
Actually it runs pretty good. (Comparing it to a 3GS)
What I meant it. Basically you broadcast your 3g signal over a wireless network (your device).
Yes you can do this now, but it costs an extra $20 a month and you lose your unlimited data plan.. Not to mention you couldn't even do that before June..
For me I jailbreak my main device for a few reasons. First is that I have a wifi only ipad. I run mywi on the iphone and can tether them together at the touch of a button, an arrangement that neither apple nor the telcos want as they can squeeze extra cash out of people without it.
Second is that I can simply drop my GS compiled apps straight onto itunes and install them to my device, no need to set up all the provisioning and fuss to create ad hoc versions of binaries.
On my ipad I now have an excellent 10 item dock, it's very OS X. Helps me keep the useful stuff available quickly.
Another is using Display Out (a cydia app) on the the ipad to enable complete system wide output to an external monitor or projector, very useful for my real job.
Point is for me that there are features that these devices are very capable of but are not available as standard, features that are useful to me. Whether you need them is a personal choice.
Security wise I've never had a problem. But I'm sure if some hackers got down to it and looked at the GS viewer app (not apple approved) that you installed through xcode then having your iphone sitting looking for a connection that will allow someone to execute whatever code they like, can't be that safe either. But no one will and the same on your phone unless you install crap you find in a dodgy corner of the internet. The jailbreaking apps are supported by a huge community of very clever people, they are not going to stuff trojans and malware into them without it being noticed, and why would they want to?
So you can use another telephone as a modem? WiFi works fine for me on all my iDevices. I am not sure there is any value in that. For the average guy... Where so you have to work that does not have WiFi? I do home, work, coffee shops, downtown cities, etc. WiFi is everywhere. (pretty much) I do not work while driving or when at the beach.
Second, why is dropping GS apps on iTunes valuable? I get what you are saying, but why is it needed? Do you provision a bunch of iDevices in an office? Is this a way to get around the regulations of ad-hoc distribution?
Third. without jail breaking you can have up to 48 apps on the dock in folders, so there's not much value there. I guess I can wait until the update for iPad so it works like iPhone. Actually, that will allow 72 apps on the potentially upgraded iPad's dock. WooHoo if you need it...
Display out would be pretty nice. I don't know of a legitimate way to get to that, yet, but maybe there is one - I'll look.
I just maybe have a different perspective due to education regarding the nature of hackers. I am not willing to give them any advantage.
the GS Viewer is only running when I am in charge, and can see who is near enough to hack. A jail broken iDevice in a Starbucks is wide open to all kinds of mayhem.
Hackers are a huge group of clever people all right, I will agree with you on that 100%. Give them an exploit and they'll take over your device, identity and life.
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My conscience is? WTF? I don't feel even remotely bad about jbing... Neither does the government either, because they mandated it was LEGAL...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/01/official-iphone-4-jailbreak-hits-from-iphone-dev-team/
Sure it's legal, but it's not a good thing to do. Apparently you can change your screen backdrops and add folders, which you can do in iOS4 anyway, without exposing yourself to hackers. I can't imagine the horrors of multitasking on a 2G, so that is not an advantage, shall we agree?
Not sure what you mean by a "3G hotspot"...
Crash and Burn repeatedly... Great reason to Jail Break! *NOT* (watch the video)
Can you imagine what "crapola" they are pushing to the iDevice? Maybe you can't, because if you could why Jail break?
What I meant it. Basically you broadcast your 3g signal over a wireless network (your device).
Yes you can do this now, but it costs an extra $20 a month and you lose your unlimited data plan.. Not to mention you couldn't even do that before June..
Second is that I can simply drop my GS compiled apps straight onto itunes and install them to my device, no need to set up all the provisioning and fuss to create ad hoc versions of binaries.
On my ipad I now have an excellent 10 item dock, it's very OS X. Helps me keep the useful stuff available quickly.
Another is using Display Out (a cydia app) on the the ipad to enable complete system wide output to an external monitor or projector, very useful for my real job.
Point is for me that there are features that these devices are very capable of but are not available as standard, features that are useful to me. Whether you need them is a personal choice.
Security wise I've never had a problem. But I'm sure if some hackers got down to it and looked at the GS viewer app (not apple approved) that you installed through xcode then having your iphone sitting looking for a connection that will allow someone to execute whatever code they like, can't be that safe either. But no one will and the same on your phone unless you install crap you find in a dodgy corner of the internet. The jailbreaking apps are supported by a huge community of very clever people, they are not going to stuff trojans and malware into them without it being noticed, and why would they want to?
So you can use another telephone as a modem? WiFi works fine for me on all my iDevices. I am not sure there is any value in that. For the average guy... Where so you have to work that does not have WiFi? I do home, work, coffee shops, downtown cities, etc. WiFi is everywhere. (pretty much) I do not work while driving or when at the beach.
Second, why is dropping GS apps on iTunes valuable? I get what you are saying, but why is it needed? Do you provision a bunch of iDevices in an office? Is this a way to get around the regulations of ad-hoc distribution?
Third. without jail breaking you can have up to 48 apps on the dock in folders, so there's not much value there. I guess I can wait until the update for iPad so it works like iPhone. Actually, that will allow 72 apps on the potentially upgraded iPad's dock. WooHoo if you need it...
Display out would be pretty nice. I don't know of a legitimate way to get to that, yet, but maybe there is one - I'll look.
I just maybe have a different perspective due to education regarding the nature of hackers. I am not willing to give them any advantage.
the GS Viewer is only running when I am in charge, and can see who is near enough to hack. A jail broken iDevice in a Starbucks is wide open to all kinds of mayhem.
Hackers are a huge group of clever people all right, I will agree with you on that 100%. Give them an exploit and they'll take over your device, identity and life.
(shame i dont have an iphone ... :S)