Well looks like codemonkey is making an effort on the forum by helping with some questions which I think is great cause it shows concern for there customers just one problem no post about what everyone is really concerned about never seen a thread move so fast and just a few yellow post in the beginning about the issue
Well I think gs might go from my dev program of choice to my prototype program of choice looking like it's going to be corona I like unity also but not into 3d games much
will i be able to use the new version of gamesalad though to create the games? like when this update comes i expect their to be fixed memory leaks etc, will i be able to use the new gamesalad (fixed memory leaks etc, no restrictions) and STILL be able to use my membership, or will i have to use 0.8.9? thanks
rickyniko said: will i be able to use the new version of gamesalad though to create the games? like when this update comes i expect their to be fixed memory leaks etc, will i be able to use the new gamesalad (fixed memory leaks etc, no restrictions) and STILL be able to use my membership, or will i have to use 0.8.9? thanks
I don't know the full details about what current users will get as opposed to what new users that sign up to this new system.
But I believe that we will all get tool enhancements. So memory leaks, speed improvements etc etc will be available to all.
I imagine that some new features (not all) will be new system only. It'll be a bit like the express/pro system currently in. If your account is pro, you'll have a pro behaviours folder. If not, you don't see it.
So no, we won't be stuck with .89 - as far as I'm aware anyway. Best to wait for a yellow post on that for concrete info.
quantumsheep said: I don't know the full details about what current users will get as opposed to what new users that sign up to this new system.
But I believe that we will all get tool enhancements. So memory leaks, speed improvements etc etc will be available to all.
I imagine that some new features (not all) will be new system only. It'll be a bit like the express/pro system currently in. If your account is pro, you'll have a pro behaviours folder. If not, you don't see it.
So no, we won't be stuck with .89 - as far as I'm aware anyway. Best to wait for a yellow post on that for concrete info.
Hope that helps,
QS
thanks QS! well see how all this goes, i still have until june next year to publish games, so ill see what happens until then
Forgive me if I'm repeating something as I didn't read all 24 pages of comments.
So ALMOST the worst day of my life.
Through GameSalad, I've made just under $1,000 in the past four months or so. I've been looking for an excuse to finally suck it up and.... and.... YES! YES! I'LL DO IT! I give in- I'll learn code. This has pushed me over the edge. I've been planning to for a while but GameSalad was so enticing and simple. One thing I will NEVER stand for is producing a game under another brand. There needs to be a new word for how ridiculous that is. Like ridiculous x1000.
GameSalad- I'm sorry we had to end this way. We had a good run, but even if coding becomes too overwhelming, I'm just heading right over to Unity.
I'M NOT BITTER! *Hysterical laughing* Okay- I'm completely bitter, just as we all should be.
(By the way- moderators influenced by GameSalad's employees won't change anybody's opinions- no matter how they try to spin this.)
Oh my gosh that video is AWESOME!!!!!! LOVED IT. Love the WTF moments :-)
I think this should be GameSalad's new motto - "Isn't it great"!
It will be interesting how much back tracking, if any, GameSalad does. Hey Coke did New Coke and turn back and then yesterday we had the GAP going back to their old logo after everyone told them their new logo sucked!
I believe that we will all get tool enhancements. So memory leaks, speed improvements etc etc will be available to all.
I think Gendai might have received slightly less of a beating if they had released an update at the same time as making the announcement: "Here's what you've been waiting for, complete with pro-only features for all, and by the way, things will be changing from now on." IMO, they should have waited and offered the update simultaneously as a peace offering. At least folks could get some inkling of whether or not it's worth hanging around.
Then again, maybe the update is just too far off in the future to make anybody happy.
I just woke up, the nightmare is still here I did a quick search and I couldn't find any official explanatory post but I'm sure they cleared things up in 7 hours... can someone post a link for to their official response to all this mess? Thanks!
InfusedDreams said: As much as I love gamesalad, I am really hoping an alternative comes out now.
The not being able to publish under your own credentials is absurd to be honest
The thing i like(d) about GS was being able to be independent... make something and put it on my name... im sensing that now i am going to make games for them in some odd tasting sense.. although i understand they need money, they could just offer to be your publisher and all that.. in fact they should just look out for the best games and do business with those GS developers...
the way it seems now is that we are committing to the GS company as our partner in bringing our games to the market, this could be good if they do a ton of trouble shooting and perhaps clean up dirty code and test the games etc as that what would happen when you take your game design to a indie studio and work out a similar deal in return if they like your idea.
I will wait and see what the specs of it all is.. i like GS its given me an option to do something of my own, however i do not want to feel like i work for them and would always want full credit for my games and would always want to retain my intellectual property
A couple months ago I felt like GS was a little too limiting for my needs, so I decided to try Corona out. It might not be for everyone, but I know there are a lot of people considering it. Just to share the experience of someone who went from GameSalad to Corona, you can visit these two resources:
I'm not saying you SHOULD switch to Corona, but if you're unhappy with GameSalad, as others have already suggested... you should definitely give it a try. I did, and I'm very happy.
I've also used GameMaker in the past. If you're planning on waiting for GameMaker iPhone Edition, I'd DEFINITELY consider using Corona as the coding language is about the same level of difficulty (if not easier in Corona... Lua has to be the easiest language I've ever used).
P.S. And if GameSalad is really confident about their new business direction, they shouldn't have to delete my reply here as everyone is already aware there are other options out there. If this post DOES get deleted, it just goes to show GS really isn't confident about what they're doing. And do you really want an un-confident publisher responsible for your games?
Still no yellow posts!! Thanks Gendai for giving your respect to all your customers who have bought into your Beta scheme, I really appreciate the communication, I mean without us, you wouldnt of got feedback on your platform and you wouldnt of gotten our money to help develop your tool.
You drop a massive 'change' of service post, and rightfully so, your forums erupt with disgruntled customers ... How do you deal with this? The same way you always have ... By ignoring us!
I'd suggest before you go any further, you address your communication skills!
Remember, for any relationship to work (whether it be human intervention or a company you use), you need TRUST and COMMUNICATION .... Well i've lost my trust in you and well lets face it, the communication has never been there!
Ohhhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!!! Gendai, i really don't like this change. As a current pro member I hope that you will reconsider your decision. The thing I love about the iTunes app store is that we get to publish our own games and be in full control of them.
Please change your mind, Mark White www.goinnutty.com
Guys, I have one question, why choose Corona over Unity? It's just the price? Really, just as a curiosity as I have to take a decision also. Right now I'm more inclined over Unity because it looks more capable than Corona (particle system, 3d, tons of plugins for stuff like gamecenter, sprite manager...), plus I feel well in the 3d space as that's my profession.
LAdrian said: Guys, I have one question, why choose Corona over Unity? It's just the price? Really, just as a curiosity as I have to take a decision also. Right now I'm more inclined over Unity because it looks more capable than Corona (particle system, 3d, tons of plugins for stuff like gamecenter, sprite manager...), plus I feel well in the 3d space as that's my profession.
I think it's due to the complexity.. who knows..
I'm thinking with enough example code and resources that Unity would be the best option, and as for support for Game Center etc, it's miles ahead.
We had a few meetings at the studio about this yesterday, and after sleeping on it, I've decided that this might be just what I needed to push me back into Flash CS5. We will just be loosing the GS production time for our current project, not the design time. We started this project when Flash app building for iPhone was blocked by Apple, but as of a couple weeks ago, it's back, so that is where we are going. I just can't stick with GS if this is how it is going to be.
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thanks
But I believe that we will all get tool enhancements. So memory leaks, speed improvements etc etc will be available to all.
I imagine that some new features (not all) will be new system only. It'll be a bit like the express/pro system currently in. If your account is pro, you'll have a pro behaviours folder. If not, you don't see it.
So no, we won't be stuck with .89 - as far as I'm aware anyway. Best to wait for a yellow post on that for concrete info.
Hope that helps,
QS
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well see how all this goes, i still have until june next year to publish games, so ill see what happens until then
So ALMOST the worst day of my life.
Through GameSalad, I've made just under $1,000 in the past four months or so. I've been looking for an excuse to finally suck it up and.... and.... YES! YES! I'LL DO IT! I give in- I'll learn code. This has pushed me over the edge. I've been planning to for a while but GameSalad was so enticing and simple. One thing I will NEVER stand for is producing a game under another brand. There needs to be a new word for how ridiculous that is. Like ridiculous x1000.
GameSalad- I'm sorry we had to end this way. We had a good run, but even if coding becomes too overwhelming, I'm just heading right over to Unity.
I'M NOT BITTER! *Hysterical laughing* Okay- I'm completely bitter, just as we all should be.
(By the way- moderators influenced by GameSalad's employees won't change anybody's opinions- no matter how they try to spin this.)
Here is a song for you: This forum is a family-friendly place. Let's try to keep it that way.
I think this should be GameSalad's new motto - "Isn't it great"!
It will be interesting how much back tracking, if any, GameSalad does. Hey Coke did New Coke and turn back and then yesterday we had the GAP going back to their old logo after everyone told them their new logo sucked!
I think Gendai might have received slightly less of a beating if they had released an update at the same time as making the announcement: "Here's what you've been waiting for, complete with pro-only features for all, and by the way, things will be changing from now on." IMO, they should have waited and offered the update simultaneously as a peace offering. At least folks could get some inkling of whether or not it's worth hanging around.
Then again, maybe the update is just too far off in the future to make anybody happy.
We'll never know. They won't tell us.
Or to discuss issues that are starting to be considered inappropriate here.
Or to continue a topic that has been closed.
I did a quick search and I couldn't find any official explanatory post but I'm sure they cleared things up in 7 hours... can someone post a link for to their official response to all this mess?
Thanks!
the way it seems now is that we are committing to the GS company as our partner in bringing our games to the market, this could be good if they do a ton of trouble shooting and perhaps clean up dirty code and test the games etc as that what would happen when you take your game design to a indie studio and work out a similar deal in return if they like your idea.
I will wait and see what the specs of it all is.. i like GS its given me an option to do something of my own, however i do not want to feel like i work for them and would always want full credit for my games and would always want to retain my intellectual property
My Interview on the Corona blog where I describe WHY I switched:
http://blog.anscamobile.com/2010/08/why-doodle-dash-creator-jonathan-beebe-still-hasnt-bought-that-book-on-objective-c/
My personal Corona SDK review (which doesn't cover the new version of Game Edition just released today, but is still relevant):
http://jonbeebe.tumblr.com/post/1119939987/corona-sdk-review
I'm not saying you SHOULD switch to Corona, but if you're unhappy with GameSalad, as others have already suggested... you should definitely give it a try. I did, and I'm very happy.
I've also used GameMaker in the past. If you're planning on waiting for GameMaker iPhone Edition, I'd DEFINITELY consider using Corona as the coding language is about the same level of difficulty (if not easier in Corona... Lua has to be the easiest language I've ever used).
P.S. And if GameSalad is really confident about their new business direction, they shouldn't have to delete my reply here as everyone is already aware there are other options out there. If this post DOES get deleted, it just goes to show GS really isn't confident about what they're doing. And do you really want an un-confident publisher responsible for your games?
They're popular and they aren't about to lose all of their users to the competition.
GS still has a chance to fix this; they probably wont, but hey - we can hope.
If not, Corona is looking pretty good right now.
You drop a massive 'change' of service post, and rightfully so, your forums erupt with disgruntled customers ... How do you deal with this? The same way you always have ... By ignoring us!
I'd suggest before you go any further, you address your communication skills!
Remember, for any relationship to work (whether it be human intervention or a company you use), you need TRUST and COMMUNICATION .... Well i've lost my trust in you and well lets face it, the communication has never been there!
Shame on you Gendai! Shame on you!
Gendai, i really don't like this change. As a current pro member I hope that you will reconsider your decision. The thing I love about the iTunes app store is that we get to publish our own games and be in full control of them.
Please change your mind,
Mark White
www.goinnutty.com
I'm thinking we should all start a corona resource club to help each other out when making games.. Code re-use would be beautiful..
// red.
Really, just as a curiosity as I have to take a decision also. Right now I'm more inclined over Unity because it looks more capable than Corona (particle system, 3d, tons of plugins for stuff like gamecenter, sprite manager...), plus I feel well in the 3d space as that's my profession.
I'm thinking with enough example code and resources that Unity would be the best option, and as for support for Game Center etc, it's miles ahead.
// red.
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